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Title: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: dolphins4life on June 03, 2024, 11:23:33 pm
What if Miami is in playoff contention next season and Tua goes down?

What if they then sign Brady out of retirement?

How would you react?


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Phishfan on June 04, 2024, 12:17:18 am
I want to lock this so bad.  What if the queen had balls? I prefer to not dwell in what it's but what is.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Denver2 on June 04, 2024, 09:31:00 am
I’ll never watch a game again or cheer for Miami.

I’ll follow the CFL


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Dave Gray on June 04, 2024, 10:16:32 am
If I'm to answer this earnestly, the season would be over.

If you lose your starting QB, especially one with numbers as good as Tua, expect to be worse.  As we're already barely a playoff team, it would mean maybe we squeak in to the playoffs, but don't have the ability to compete with the elite teams.

They wouldn't sign Brady because he wouldn't want it.  But also because he'll have been away from football, which matters, especially when you're older.  Also, he would have to learn our playbook and the team isn't built around his talents.  There wouldn't be enough time to re-tool the team properly.

It would be a media circus; nothing more.  But it wouldn't happen, anyway.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 04, 2024, 10:44:00 am
If I'm to answer this earnestly, the season would be over.

If you lose your starting QB, especially one with numbers as good as Tua, expect to be worse.  As we're already barely a playoff team, it would mean maybe we squeak in to the playoffs, but don't have the ability to compete with the elite teams.

They wouldn't sign Brady because he wouldn't want it.  But also because he'll have been away from football, which matters, especially when you're older.  Also, he would have to learn our playbook and the team isn't built around his talents.  There wouldn't be enough time to re-tool the team properly.

It would be a media circus; nothing more.  But it wouldn't happen, anyway.

Morrall, Brady, Differ,vHostefler, and Files say "HI"


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Dave Gray on June 04, 2024, 11:16:16 am
^ I'm not familiar with every one of these situations, but from what I know of the ones there, they wouldn't apply.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 04, 2024, 12:08:16 pm
^ I'm not familiar with every one of these situations, but from what I know of the ones there, they wouldn't apply.

They are all week 1 backups that won the Superbowl


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Dave Gray on June 04, 2024, 12:21:13 pm
They are all week 1 backups that won the Superbowl

Yeah, that's not what we're talking about at all.

Backups that are on the team, practicing with the players, still in football shape and know the system is one thing.

Pulling a guy out of retirement mid-season to start immediately on a team with which he has no familiarity is another.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on June 05, 2024, 12:39:10 am
If Tua gets hurt, we're fucked. End of story.

Mike White is not an NFL quality QB (let alone a starter). It was a terrible signing and a complete waste of cap space.

Skylar Thompson had potential from his rookie season, but since the White signing is not getting the reps, and not really getting a chance.

Bringing in someone else that late is a waste of time and money.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: CF DolFan on June 06, 2024, 09:21:52 am
Well if this week's practices prove anything it's that not every QB can just come in and play in Mike's system. The offensive team struggled mightily as Tua shut it down for contract talks. He only played in 7v7 and sat out the 11v11.  Regardless of it being Mike White or Skylar the defense pretty much dominated in 11v11s while Tua owned the 7v7s.  


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Brian Fein on June 06, 2024, 11:33:55 am
I'm pretty sure players can't also be owner of a team.  Brady is trying to be a minority owner of the Raiders.
He's not coming out of retirement.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Spider-Dan on June 06, 2024, 12:18:41 pm
Well if this week's practices prove anything it's that not every QB can just come in and play in Mike's system.
We already saw this in 2022.  The offense looked like garbage when Teddy and Skylar were running it.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: CF DolFan on June 06, 2024, 12:58:28 pm
We already saw this in 2022.  The offense looked like garbage when Teddy and Skylar were running it.
Yet plenty of people think Tua is on auto pilot here. I get him not being everyone’s favorite but the amount of disrespect around him always amazes me. 


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Dave Gray on June 07, 2024, 11:30:57 am
I get him not being everyone’s favorite but the amount of disrespect around him always amazes me. 

Yeah, no kidding.

For us, we need a backup QB who isn't going to take over for Tua to win the Super Bowl.  It's to take over if Tua gets a little bit dinged up and needs a couple of weeks of rest and rehab -- we need to find a way to win games that we're supposed to win.  Or maybe just stop the bleeding so we don't completely fall off -- the different between one game in the NFL means a lot, not just in making the playoffs, but seeding, home field advantage, bye weeks....all kinds of stuff.

A guy like Mike White needs to know the system and allow for our playmakers to still do their thing over a short term.  That's all we're asking.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: masterfins on June 07, 2024, 02:26:39 pm
Brady wouldn't come out of retirement.  Other than that Miami would lose an extra game or two and still make the playoffs.  Maybe Miami would find their new QB.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Denver2 on June 09, 2024, 04:21:25 pm
If Tua goes down for a long period of time we are not making the playoffs. We should be fine with White or Thompson for a game or two.

If Tua gets injured for the playoffs you go with one of those two guys or you hire Tannehill now and have him as as the back up that can still give you a chance if you a chance if you think he can drag you to a superbowl which to be clear is the only thing that happens if Tua goes does for the playoffs but you don’t pick up someone off the street In week 18 to make a playoff run for you even It’s a legend


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Fau Teixeira on June 09, 2024, 09:50:07 pm
I find it interesting that there's the camp of "tua isn't that good" and the camp of "if tua gets hurt, our season's over". Which one is it, is he good or not?


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Denver2 on June 09, 2024, 09:55:34 pm
I find it interesting that there's the camp of "tua isn't that good" and the camp of "if tua gets hurt, our season's over". Which one is it, is he good or not?

He’s a very good QB, is he elite? TBD.

If he misses a few weeks I think we can be ok but if it’s extended time I’m not sure Thompson or White can carry.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Spider-Dan on June 10, 2024, 03:13:11 am
I find it interesting that there's the camp of "tua isn't that good" and the camp of "if tua gets hurt, our season's over". Which one is it, is he good or not?
Usually, the argument goes something like, "Tua is just an average QB, but Teddy/Skylar/White are among the worst backups in the league, so he only looks competent compared to them."


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on June 10, 2024, 08:23:52 am
I find it interesting that there's the camp of "tua isn't that good" and the camp of "if tua gets hurt, our season's over". Which one is it, is he good or not?

Usually, the argument goes something like, "Tua is just an average QB, but Teddy/Skylar/White are among the worst backups in the league, so he only looks competent compared to them."

Actually it is two different camps.  And the anti-Tua camp doesn’t think he is a bad QB, they just think that if resigning him requires paying him elite QB money the Dolphins should let him walk because he is not elite.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Pappy13 on June 12, 2024, 10:22:46 am
Actually it is two different camps.  And the anti-Tua camp doesn’t think he is a bad QB, they just think that if resigning him requires paying him elite QB money the Dolphins should let him walk because he is not elite.
Or that at least he's not proven he's elite yet. He was very good to elite for most of last year until the last couple of games when trying to win the division and then he was average at best. He's only had 1 playoff game but average at best then too. Hard to see giving him an elite QB contract when he hasn't yet earned it. I see everyone saying if we wait and we win a SB then he'll want even more money and I say I'll gladly give it to him then because he'll have earned it. He hasn't earned top 5 money yet, at least not in my opinion.


Title: Re: What if Tua gets hurt in the middle of the season.
Post by: Denver2 on June 13, 2024, 02:25:06 am
Or that at least he's not proven he's elite yet. He was very good to elite for most of last year until the last couple of games when trying to win the division and then he was average at best. He's only had 1 playoff game but average at best then too. Hard to see giving him an elite QB contract when he hasn't yet earned it. I see everyone saying if we wait and we win a SB then he'll want even more money and I say I'll gladly give it to him then because he'll have earned it. He hasn't earned top 5 money yet, at least not in my opinion.

I mean I get it man but that’s the market. Tua makes us relevant and still has time glad deliver. It took Brees and Peyton a long time to win a playoff game. Jim Kelly lost 4 in a row and the greatest passer in NFL history has an 8-9 playoff record and 1 Super Bowl loss.

It sucks that Goff got what he did and that hurt us but market is what it as and the man is going to keep us relevant at least for awhile.

What’s the alternative? Go back to the Fiedler, Feeleys, Ferrotes, Rosenfelds, et al for 20 more years?
Hoping that we suck enough for a generational talent?

Where’s Andrew Luck at now?

Lawrence has been good but has not lived up to the hype. Burrow is very good but he gets just as banged up as Tua. Him and Herbie have been great but they have also regressed at times year to year where Tua has improved.