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Title: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: dolphins4life on July 23, 2024, 05:57:45 pm
Despite vast numbers of people moving to Florida during the Biden administration, they've only gained ONE electoral vote for 2024. (29 to 30)

Texas gained 2 electoral votes.

California lost only 1 despite the mass exit from the state.

As with regards to the swing states

PA lost 1 electoral vote

MI lost 1 electoral vote

GA did not change

AZ did not change either

NH did not change either

How is this in any way fair at all?

It's ironic, the GOP is usually the party that benefits from the utterly stupid electoral college.

This year, it's the Democrats who will benefit in this election.

If what Hoodie says is true, that's even worse news for the GOP because it means that Harris is a lock to win.  So many Republicans have moved to Republican states that they've left the other states wide open for her to win.   


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Spider-Dan on July 23, 2024, 07:42:37 pm
Despite vast numbers of people moving to Florida during the Biden administration, they've only gained ONE electoral vote for 2024. (29 to 30) [...]

California lost only 1 despite the mass exit from the state. [...]

How is this in any way fair at all?
Population of California (according to the United States Census):
2010- 37,253,956
2020- 39,538,223 (an increase of 2,284,267)

Population of Florida (according to the United States Census):
2010- 18,801,310
2020- 21,538,187 (an increase of 2,736,877)

Wow, FL added more residents than CA... by almost an entire Fresno!

Perhaps you should spend less time listening to right-wing blowhards lie to you about Glorious Florida and Failing California.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 24, 2024, 12:13:47 pm
Despite vast numbers of people moving to Florida during the Biden administration, they've only gained ONE electoral vote for 2024. (29 to 30)



I don't need to read any further than that to realize your entire post is nonsense and drivel. 

The 2024 electoral numbers is based on the 2020 census.  Something that was completed before the election.  Please educate yourself before wasting everyone else's time with this nonsense.       


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Denver2 on July 24, 2024, 11:22:05 pm
All of these small changes only help republicans but barely changes the math on getting to 270.

It’s almost certain that the republicans will lose the popular vote for the 3rd time in a row but it’s very possible they will win the presidency for 2 out of 3 of the times


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 25, 2024, 05:22:25 am
All of these small changes only help republicans but barely changes the math on getting to 270.

It’s almost certain that the republicans will lose the popular vote for the 3rd time in a row but it’s very possible they will win the presidency for 2 out of 3 of the times

If the Republicans lose the popular vote it will be the 5th time in a row and 8 out of the last 9.

Of the last 8 elections Biden, Clinton x3, Obama x 2, Gore all won the popular vote.  Bush won the popular vote for his second term.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Dave Gray on July 25, 2024, 01:47:03 pm
Right.  The idea that the electoral college ever helps Democrats is peak moron.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Denver2 on July 26, 2024, 06:18:36 pm

If the Republicans lose the popular vote it will be the 5th time in a row and 8 out of the last 9.

Of the last 8 elections Biden, Clinton x3, Obama x 2, Gore all won the popular vote.  Bush won the popular vote for his second term.

Oh I know, I just didn’t want to rub it in to D4L


Title: Re: Does Trump have ANY chance of winning this election?
Post by: Dave Gray on July 31, 2024, 01:59:00 pm
Trump is going to win Florida before and after the census.  It doesn't matter how much you win by.  So, that will have nothing to do with the election.

If, by some chance, Trump were to lose Florida, the election would be such a landslide blowout that it wouldn't matter anyway.

In addition, you're only counting half of the equation.  For every GOP vote that Florida gains (already a red state), it's another state that's losing a GOP voter, which is also lagging in the census.  A GOP voter leaving Pennsylvania for Florida hurts the GOP.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on July 31, 2024, 07:22:32 pm
merged the threads as the new thread was clearly just a follow up to the other thread.  Start replying to the threads instead of starting a new thread or all your thread are going to be deleted instead of merged. 


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Brian Fein on August 05, 2024, 05:20:23 pm
Trump is going to win Florida before and after the census.  It doesn't matter how much you win by.  So, that will have nothing to do with the election.

If, by some chance, Trump were to lose Florida, the election would be such a landslide blowout that it wouldn't matter anyway.

In addition, you're only counting half of the equation.  For every GOP vote that Florida gains (already a red state), it's another state that's losing a GOP voter, which is also lagging in the census.  A GOP voter leaving Pennsylvania for Florida hurts the GOP.
"They" say that if there was ever an opportunity for Florida to go blue, its this election year.  We'll see in November, i have doubts.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Dave Gray on August 07, 2024, 01:30:20 pm
"They" say that if there was ever an opportunity for Florida to go blue, its this election year.  We'll see in November, i have doubts.

Sure.  It's not that Florida can never ever go blue.  It's just that if it does, the election isn't close.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 07, 2024, 01:41:36 pm
Sure.  It's not that Florida can never ever go blue.  It's just that if it does, the election isn't close.

Florida more than any other state has the potential to swing from red to purple to blue very quickly.  Every year a significant number of voters die and a significant numbers of voters move to the state.  It was that long ago it was viewed as a swing state. 


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 07, 2024, 01:45:24 pm
Florida had elections in 2022 and Republicans won a supermajority in both houses.

New York state is closer to being red than Florida is to being blue.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Dave Gray on August 07, 2024, 01:56:34 pm
^ That seems to be a bit of a stretch.  For President, NY was +23 democrat in 2020 and has been pretty much around there for decades.  They last voted red for Reagan in 1984, which was a historic landslide election.

Florida is within 5 points every single year, and usually not even that much.  3 points in 2020, 2016 was 1 point, 2012 was less than one point.  And though it's been trending redder, Ds won 3 of the last 6 presidential cycles.



Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Spider-Dan on August 07, 2024, 02:42:12 pm
Florida has continued to trend redder and redder since 2016.

We can similarly talk about how Iowa used to be blue, then purple, but Iowa is now red as fuck.  Colorado is similar, but in the opposite direction.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Sunstroke on August 07, 2024, 03:03:58 pm

I would love nothing more than to see AZ turn blue this November, but if I hold my breath waiting for that to happen, I would likely be the only part of AZ turning blue...




Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: Dave Gray on August 07, 2024, 07:48:02 pm
Arizona is currently a 1 point GOP lead, still with the VP and convention bounces, if they happen.  It's not out of reach.

That's also with Kennedy polling at 4.6 percent, though, so I'm not sure what happens to his voters, if they split or don't vote or what...


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 09, 2024, 01:43:15 pm
So now Bone Spurs is questioning CMS Walz service.


Title: Re: The key states for this presidential election
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on August 15, 2024, 08:53:19 am
Among the states Trump won in 2020 Florida was the second closest race, only North Carolina was closer.  Harris could win Florida and still windup with a very close race.