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The Cowboys would be willing to part with Trey Lance. Dak is their starter and Cooper Rush is the backup. Trey is still a young QB with potential. Mike White is worthless. The one thing the Dolphins don't have is a guy who can extend plays. Lance can do that. He's also familiar with the type of offense that Miami runs because it's similar to the 49'ers offense. I think the Dolphins should make Dallas an offer.

Or maybe not...lol just saw he threw 5 picks in the final pre-season game. I still think he's better than Mike White.

Sure if it costs nothing jettison white but Skylar is number 2 lance can run the practice squad

Is Lance even a good fit? He may be able to extend plays, but hasn't the McDaniel DNA to date been the quick release and YAC?

The other question is cost: we'd ideally want to get him for basically nothing. We're capped out, and frankly could/should use whatever space we can gain on improving the defense or offensive line depth (which has already taken a hit again).

Ultimately 5 INT in his last preseason game has to be the sealer. No thanks.

If Kyle Shanahan, who spent three first-round picks to draft Lance, thought he was unsalvageable for his system, not sure why McDaniel would want Lance for his similar system.

To be fair he had both Brock Purdy and Sam Darnold a more established veteran at the time. There was no room on the 49'ers roster for Lance. I think Lance would become the backup over Thompson. Granted that he's not necessarily suited to run the offense that Miami runs, but he brings something to the Dolphins that they don't have, the ability to extend plays and make something out of nothing. Tua can't do that and neither can Thompson in my humble opinion. If he becomes the starter you probably need to cater the offense to what he does best, but I trust that McDaniel would be able to do that.

For now. I wouldn't advocate getting Lance to run the practice squad, but if you think he eventually can be your backup, I think that's a smart move.

By the way I watched the highlights of that Dallas game and he did a lot of good along with those 5 picks. I think like 3 of them were in the last quarter when they were trying to make a comeback with the last one on the last play of the game where he forced it into the endzone. On another one he hit the receiver in the hands but a little high and he juggled it a little and the defender took it away so not really his fault on that throw either. Still that's 3 picks in a game where he threw almost 50 passes, but he's young and hasn't played much. I would expect that to get better the more he plays. The good throws in that game were pretty impressive.

Now would be a good time to offer the Cowboys something for him. He probably wouldn't be ready to play this year much unless Tua goes down, but I wouldn't mind seeing him compete with Thompson for the backup. He's a major upgrade over Mike White, that's for damn sure.

He's a bum.

And probably better than the starter that Miami is running out there right now. They should have done this trade in the offseason - probably could have gotten him for a 5th or 6th round pick. Wonder what Dallas will want for him now.

I'm not advocating this trade for this year really, I expect that Tua will return in a couple weeks, but I think he would be more of an insurance policy in case Tua goes down again and is out of football in the near future as I see that as a very real possibility. Miami needs to bring in someone who at least has some upside to compete with Thompson, it's surely not Huntley. He's had enough NFL experience and he's terrible. Much worse than I expected actually. I know he hasn't had a lot of playing time but I don't see him getting better with playing time. Trey Lance looked better in that 5 interception game with backups than Huntley looks with the starters. He's an actual QB and not just a glorified ball carrier.

I'm not saying I want him, but does Miami even have to give up anything for a 3rd string guy on the practice squad?  I thought those players were unprotected and could just be signed.

There is no reason to believe that Trey Lance is better than Tyler Huntley based on their play in the NFL.
Trading for Lance would definitely be Doing Something, but I don't think it would make the team better.

If you're going to trade for a QB, trade PIT for whichever is cheaper out of Fields or Wilson.  Both of them have affordable contracts and either a better history (Wilson) or more upside (Fields) than anyone else being discussed.

Apparently Trey doesn't have Cooper Rush potential...  ::)

I'm not sure I agree with that. Lance's NFL passing stats are better, his rushing stats are not. Lance is also 2 years younger.

PLAYER          G   GS   CMP  ATT    %   YDS   AVG   TD   INT   RUSH   YDS   AVG   TD
Trey Lance      8     4     56  102   55    797    7.8     5      3        54    235    4.4    1
Tyler Huntley 22   11   253  395   64  2247    5.7     8      8      126    556    4.4    4

The Cowboys aren't willing to part with Cooper Rush and I don't consider him starter material. I don't think Trey has been given enough of a chance to determine that yet.

I think Lance is on the active roster, not on the practice squad - for just that reason.

Lance has started 4 games, Rush has started 6.

It doesn't make sense to trade for a backup that is unproven at best and a bust at worst.  This is the equivalent of trading for Josh Rosen, which is fine if you're trying to tank (as MIA was when they did just that) but a waste of time otherwise.  Unlike, say, Fields, Lance hasn't shown anything in the NFL that indicates a meaningful upside.  If you were to ask me before the season who I would take over Trey Lance, Tyler Huntley would have literally have been one of my top suggestions. I'd sooner trade for Desmond Ridder or Sam Howell than Lance; at least they have a decent amount of starter experience.

Rush has 7 years experience in the NFL, Lance has 2. I don't think it's a stretch to think that Lance may get better with more experience. The Cowboys know what they have in Rush, he's a dependable backup for Dak. Rush knows he's not starting so you don't have to worry about a QB waiting for his chance.  It's the perfect place for a QB of Rush's nature. For a guy like Lance who needs more chances to see what he can do, that's not a good spot for him. The fact that Lance is still on the active roster is proof the Cowboys haven't given up on Lance, they just think Rush is the better choice for backing up Dak right now.

Depends on what they want in a trade. I think a 5th round pick would be worth the chance. I don't know if they would take that now, they probably would have taken it before the season started, probably not now. I've seen enough of Huntley already. I'd rather be starting Thompson in all honesty and I'm assuming that he's not starting because he's still recovering from his rib injury, but maybe they think Huntley has played well enough to start him, personally I don't see it. He's had a couple of decent throws but he looks scared to throw the ball in my opinion, every throw it looks like he'd like to pull it down and run.

I don't know that there's much that a player would have learned by their 7th year of riding the bench that they hadn't already learned by the 3rd.
These aren't starters we're talking about, here.

He's a bum.

Let some other team deal with the Trey Lance disappointment... Miami needs a veteran as a back-up.

The Niners got really lucky with Brock Purdy.  What in the world were they thinking drafting Lance?   And where would they be without Purdy?

To be clear, I don't want Lance to be the backup to Tua. I'm suggesting you get Lance as a replacement for Tua in case Tua's career is over. I'm also not saying that you just put Lance in and say that your QB problem is fixed, no you would still have to go out and probably draft anther QB in the first round, but I at least think that Lance could be a legit starter in the league in the mean time which I can't say about anyone that the Dolphins have put out there in Tua's absence.

I actually see that as an "even worse" situation. I could see a "temporarily out of desperation" kind of usage, but I'd rather just see some other team deal with it. If Tua is done, I'm hoping Miami holds out for someone a whole lot better than Lance.

Ok, so you didn't like my Trey Lance trade suggestion. What do you think about Bryce Young? I'm not sure a 4th rounder will get him though.

Dolphins trade pitch flips 4th round pick for high upside $38M QB (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dolphins-trade-pitch-flips-4th-round-pick-for-high-upside-38m-qb/ar-AA1ssgza?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=412c04d119f94c1f952225a8433be0ee&ei=36)

What's next, trading DEN for the "high upside" Zach Wilson?

That article feels mildly insulting.