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Looks like Black Monday will start today
 The Pats have fired Jerrod Mayo after only one season.  I'm guessing ownership was pissed that the Pats blew the top pick with the upset win today.

I have to believe they already have a plan in place to dump him like that. They are likely to bring back former Patriots. Either Vrabel or Josh McDaniels ... or  maybe even both.

Jaguars have fired coach Doug Pederson but in a shocking twist, are keeping GM Trent Baalke.   That makes no sense at all.

I think there's more to the story with Mayo than we know or may ever know.  I have a feeling that he either didn't get along with other staff or they thought he was incompetent/bad leader of men behind the scenes.

Both the Dolphins and the Giants have announced that they will be retaining their coaches and GMs this upcoming season.   So far, we are up to five teams needing new coaches.  This includes the ones who fired their coach mid season.  

Jets
Bears
Saints
Patriots
Jaguars

I can't see any more than this unless something crazy happens in the playoffs.

I am surprised about the Giants.  It seems like such a high pick without a QB would trigger a regime change, starting with GM.  But I guess this is a commitment to these guys for the next several years.  Because if they bring in a new QB and new strategy, you aren't going to do well to swap out the GM in the next season or two.

I'm guessing they realize that their QB woes are the problem and that will be solved in the draft.  They will take either Cam Ward or Shedeur Sanders, whichever one is not taken by Tennessee.   The don't have to worry about Cleveland because Cleveland is stuck with DeShaun Watson for at least three more years.

A couple of the analysts that have been on Joe Rose have said there isn't a 1st round QB in this draft. That doesn't mean they won't be drafted high but don't expect heroism from them. Brian Dabolll turned around Josh Allen so he has positive experience grooming a QB.

Yeah it’s a thin QB class, I’m not sold on Sanders or Ward

I am not a fan of the firing of Mayo after only one year.  

In general you should not fire a coach in less than 3 years.  And that the coach needs to be truly awful to be booted after 2.  Mayo won as many games this year as the greatest coach of all time won with basically the same team last year.  

Unless they already have a replacement lined up I think they may have trouble attracting top tier talent.  First gets rid of BB and then gives his replacement only one year, hard to convince the next guy he is going to get a fair opportunity to  prove himself.  

I hope Kraft isn't morphing into Al Davis or Jerry Jones in his old age.  

Gronk was kind of going off on "Mr Kraft" yesterday and they seemed to move on him before it got too bad. I think most feel the way you do but I'm interested in seeing if he already has a plan he wants to implement.

Raiders just fired Antonio Pierce after one season

Same comment as before.  Why would anyone believe they are going to get a fair shot to prove themselves. 

Antonio Pierce was a bad gameday coach.  I was constantly critical of his decision-making.  He was actively bad.

He may have been good in other areas, but just in terms of choosing when to punt and manage the clock and stuff like that, he was the league's worst.

Raiders fired their GM yesterday so it looks like they are cleaning house and starting a new regime.  With Tom Brady being a minority owner, Mike Vrabel to New England is not a guarantee all of a sudden.

If you have had a GM that has been on the hot seat and you have to replace your QB and draft one high up, it makes sense to make the GM change at that moment.

If the GM is brought in and wants to commit to the coach on the team and they discuss the QB and have the same type of player in mind, I'm fine with the coach staying.  It's harder to do those steps backwards.

Patriots hired Mike Vrabel.  The speed makes me think it was at least partially in the works before Mayo was fired. 

I like Vrabel and happy with his hiring but still feel Mayo wasn't given a fair shake.

Remember when everyone was wondering if an NFL head coach had ever spent his bye week in an opposing owner's suite before? Vrabel sat with Kraft and his son in his suite on his off week from Tennessee. You know that deal was basically set before Mayo was fired.

That occurred before Mayo was even hired.  MV was there to be induced in Pats HOF.  I don't see that as much different than a when Flores went to a Patriots SB ring party as the HC of Miami.

The Cowboys and HC Mike McCarthy have now "parted ways":

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-mike-mccarthy-unable-to-reach-agreement-as-head-coach-leaves-after-five-seasons-in-dallas/

So I guess you're saying his interview unexpectedly blew them away so they hired him on the spot? LOL

Not saying that at all.  Kraft already formed his opinion of MV long before this interview.  But I don't think what happened at MV induction into the HOF had any relevance.  The fact Kraft thought so highly of MV to induct him might have been relevent. 

Would not be shocked if the former Dolphin's WR coach becomes the next NE WR coach. 

Is it me, or does Mike Vrabel look a bit like Kurt Warner?

For some reason, I thought McCarthy was deemed safe after the initial wave of firings.  Guess not.

I don't disagree with any of that. I was just using the suite as an example of how close the relationship was. I think Dolphins players voted into the Ring of Honor are in the Alumni suite along with the others who have been inducted.

No, Jerry just hadn't come out and said he was fired yet and said he wanted to talk with McCarthy after the season was over, but that was mainly so McCarthy could tell Jerry that he wasn't coming back instead of vice versa. McCarthy's contract was up this year and there was no talk of a new contract last year. His entire staff was on the last year of their contract, so it was either have a good season or they were all gone and everyone knew it before the season even started, Jerry just wouldn't confirm that and like I said that was basically so that McCarthy could tell Jerry that he wasn't coming back rather than Jerry having to walk him out, like it matters. Basically the decision was made last year not to retain McCarthy past this year unless they made some noise in the playoffs and they didn't even sniff the playoffs.

Imagine if the Dolphins wouldn't have paid Tua before the season and let him play out his final year at Miami without a new contract. You think Tua is coming back after that? Nope. They had to pay him to have any shot at keeping him. Jerry didn't feel the same way about McCarthy.