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Title: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: jtex316 on January 19, 2006, 06:57:32 am
The story is, Antonio Davis saw someone being confrontational against his wife, jumped over the scorer's table, and went in to break up the argument.  It was NOT a violent thing, he walked up there and did not throw any punches.

He should be suspended for a few games.  Under NO circumstances can you go into the stands.  Even though I would have done the exact same thing as Antonio Davis, you have to be suspended for a few games, because withiout Davis knowing it or not, he could have ignited Pacers / Pistons 2, all it takes is one crazy fan throwing a punch.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Denver_Bronco on January 19, 2006, 07:13:57 am
I read alittle about this this morning. From what he says he didn't have enough time to alert security or whatever. I would like to know what the guy or woman was doing that was so bad that he feared for his wife that much.

He's gotta be suspended though, yes.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: crazy_scar_man on January 19, 2006, 12:57:58 pm
i don't think he should be suspended. I think his wife should be barred from future games.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: raptorsfan29 on January 19, 2006, 01:03:35 pm
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i don't think he should be suspended. games.



i agree


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Sunstroke on January 19, 2006, 01:24:01 pm
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i don't think he should be suspended. I think his wife should be barred from future games.


No, no, no...if a player goes into the stands to confront a fan "FOR ANY REASON," he needs to be suspended. In this case, a couple of games just to slap the wrist and say "no if's, ands or buts, going into the stands is wrong" would probably suffice.

Why would his wife need to be barred from attending? Unless she was buying the other fan his beers and instigating the confrontation, she shouldn't receive anything but an apology from the drunk fan who was bothering her.



Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 19, 2006, 01:57:20 pm
I think he should be suspended for one game (the minimum), just as a message that "if you go into the stands, a suspension results."

I don't think you can fault him for the decision, but you also don't want to open the door.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Phishfan on January 19, 2006, 02:11:33 pm
Has anyone else heard the latest news on this? The guy is the son of a prominent political consultant. He is now sueing Davis for $1M. He claims Davis' wife started the confrontation.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on January 19, 2006, 02:36:16 pm
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Has anyone else heard the latest news on this? The guy is the son of a prominent political consultant. He is now sueing Davis for $1M. He claims Davis' wife started the confrontation.

What could he possibly sue for? Davis just confronted him from what I saw, and what is being reported he did not touch anyone!!!!! I agree with maybe a 1 game suspension but I would have done the same thing if I were in his shoes....I can't fault the guy for it, he handled it well, unlike Artest!!!!!


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Phishfan on January 19, 2006, 02:40:49 pm
Sueing because his wife started the altercation and he claims she laid her hands on his face.

If his story is actually what happened he should sue. His name has been printed in every paper, every website, etc. He is automatically considered guilty right now while Davis and family are "heroes". I guess none of us know what really happened.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Sunstroke on January 19, 2006, 04:18:01 pm
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I can't fault the guy for it, he handled it well, unlike Artest!!!!!

Strictly from the perspective of mental makeup, Antonio Davis is to Ron Artest as Gandhi is to Pee Wee Herman.

Phish nailed it when he said that "none of us know what really happened." We can speculate based on the reports, but unless you were sitting behind Mrs Davis and Mr Frivolous Lawsuit, you just don't know.

To play the devil's advocate...some wives of players can be pretty feisty as well, and especially if a fan is brutally heckling their husband. It should be interesting to see what comes out of this one.  :)



Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Dave Gray on January 20, 2006, 11:44:27 am
I see a problem with this.  ...granted, you're not supposed to enter the stands, but it gives an unfair advantage to fans.

What stops a guy from getting up in the face of some guys' wife, to get him suspended?  Five games without an altercation is excessive.  I think that family comes before your job....and when your family is at risk, screw work, screw basketball...take care of your business.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: TEKGOD on January 20, 2006, 11:53:14 am
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I see a problem with this.  ...granted, you're not supposed to enter the stands, but it gives an unfair advantage to fans.

What stops a guy from getting up in the face of some guys' wife, to get him suspended?  Five games without an altercation is excessive.  I think that family comes before your job....and when your family is at risk, screw work, screw basketball...take care of your business.



DAVE I agree 100%. Too many people are defending the fans on this - but the players are people too. I never blamed Artest for rushing the stands & looking for the fool to punish him for his stupidity. He deserved it. If you don't want trouble don't go looking for any simple as that. What gives fans the right to throw objects at players? Nothing that's what. In the case of Davis how can you penalize him for how any responsible husband/family man would react? Regardless of who started what if the case is he saw his wife in immediate danger it is wrong to expect to just not worry about it & continue playing the game. I am not saying let the players charge the stands when they please but it must be made clear that Davis did nothing to provoke an altercation he only went to his wife's aid.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: jtex316 on January 20, 2006, 11:54:13 am
Then ball players need to leave their "family" at home and away from their "work place".  Shouldn't be mixing business with your personal life.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: TEKGOD on January 20, 2006, 12:05:22 pm
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Then ball players need to leave their "family" at home and away from their "work place".  Shouldn't be mixing business with your personal life.


Cmon guy. This isnt the same as taking your newborn baby to a mosh pit at a Pantera concert. An NBA game is supposed to be a public venue where everyone is safe. If someone starts harassing your woman & there is no time to call for help then rushing to her aid shouldn't be penalized otherwise what type of message are you trying to send?


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on January 20, 2006, 05:48:01 pm
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DAVE I agree 100%. Too many people are defending the fans on this - but the players are people too. I never blamed Artest for rushing the stands & looking for the fool to punish him for his stupidity. He deserved it. If you don't want trouble don't go looking for any simple as that. What gives fans the right to throw objects at players? Nothing that's what. In the case of Davis how can you penalize him for how any responsible husband/family man would react? Regardless of who started what if the case is he saw his wife in immediate danger it is wrong to expect to just not worry about it & continue playing the game. I am not saying let the players charge the stands when they please but it must be made clear that Davis did nothing to provoke an altercation he only went to his wife's aid.


I agree 100%.  This guy did not punch, kick, or even threaten the fan.  If it was my wife, I would've done the same thing.  

Even Artest had a right to do what he did.  If a fan throws something at you and hits you or walks on your playing field, you have every right to go and beat the shit outta him.  


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Dave Gray on January 20, 2006, 06:27:15 pm
The Artest situation is a lot different.  There was never any danger to him....he was insulted and humiliated, but going into the stands escalated the situation....also, Artest threw punches and was involved in physical contact.

Davis went to protect his wife.  I think that nobody should go in the stands, but I also think that it's ok for a guy to protect his wife.  Since there was no altercation, I think that the NBA should take action, but to have a 5 game suspension for something like this isn't just.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Dphins4me on January 21, 2006, 04:22:21 pm
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Sueing because his wife started the altercation and he claims she laid her hands on his face.

If his story is actually what happened he should sue. His name has been printed in every paper, every website, etc. He is automatically considered guilty right now while Davis and family are "heroes". I guess none of us know what really happened.
Then he should sue the media for printing his name, not the Davis's.   The Davis's have done nothing wrong even if she started it.  Still gives him no right to sue.  

It was a altercation where no one was injured.   All he is doing is trying to pocket some coin.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Dphins4me on January 21, 2006, 04:28:43 pm
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DAVE I agree 100%. Too many people are defending the fans on this - but the players are people too. I never blamed Artest for rushing the stands & looking for the fool to punish him for his stupidity. He deserved it. If you don't want trouble don't go looking for any simple as that. What gives fans the right to throw objects at players? Nothing that's what.

One huge difference is Artest had no idea who threw the drink on him & went after just anyone, because the guy he first attacked did nothing. Then he starts throwing punches at them & had the wrong guy.

 He was TOTALLY in the wrong.  


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Phishfan on January 22, 2006, 04:30:30 pm
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Then he should sue the media for printing his name, not the Davis's.   The Davis's have done nothing wrong even if she started it.  Still gives him no right to sue.  

It was a altercation where no one was injured.   All he is doing is trying to pocket some coin.


He has offered to drop the suit for an apology and the Davis' refuse. That doesn't sound like someone only after money to me.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Dphins4me on January 23, 2006, 03:46:25 pm
He has offered to drop the suit for an apology and the Davis' refuse. That doesn't sound like someone only after money to me.

What is there for Davis to apologize for? 

Would you apologize to someone when you did nothing to apologize for?

Frankly anyone that brings a suit for money over something like this is just out for money.  No matter what they say.

If he felt the need to defend himself, then all he needed to do is say "Regardless of what has been said about that night, the one thing I want to make clear was I was not drunk.   There was a disagreement & no one was harmed.  To me this matter is closed."

Then move on with your life.  However, he is looking for money.  They always do.



Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Phishfan on January 23, 2006, 04:39:02 pm
Whatever he wants out of this, he has said an apology will cause the suit to be dropped. Take that for what you want to believe, but it is pretty tough  (actually impossible) to get money from a lawsuit you dropped.

You say the Davis' have nothing to apologize for. Don't fall into that trap the media sets. Like I stated earlier, he claims the woman started the incident. None of us on this board knows who started it. If she did start, it the Davis' do indeed owe an apology. She also has a history of being pretty abrasive, much like Kurt Warner's wife when she was running her mouth in the media.

I am just making this guy's case since everyone here convicted the guy of starting the argument without any inside knowledge.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Dphins4me on January 23, 2006, 07:48:44 pm
Whatever he wants out of this, he has said an apology will cause the suit to be dropped. Take that for what you want to believe, but it is pretty tough  (actually impossible) to get money from a lawsuit you dropped.

You say the Davis' have nothing to apologize for. Don't fall into that trap the media sets. Like I stated earlier, he claims the woman started the incident. None of us on this board knows who started it. If she did start, it the Davis' do indeed owe an apology. She also has a history of being pretty abrasive, much like Kurt Warner's wife when she was running her mouth in the media.

I am just making this guy's case since everyone here convicted the guy of starting the argument without any inside knowledge.
Its nothing but extortion.    All he is doing is trying to force Davis into accepting all the blame or risk losing some coin.

This should have been a non issue.  I'm sure both parties are guilty to some point.  Very rarely is one party completely innocent in these things.   

I highly doubt he would be sueing Joe Fan if this happened between him & another fan.  However, since AD has the cash and is a public figure he figures I can force him to take all the blame & if not then try to pocket some cash.  He knows now no one can prove he was actually drunk, unless a fan sitting beside him remembers him having several beers or something at the game.  Of course this also means no one can prove he was not drunk.  Its now becomes a he said/she said thing.

If its not about money then what is it about? 

Again taking this to court is only about money.  Funny how 1 million ( or so he say is less ) will make him feel better about it. 

He is flea for even bring up court action. 



Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Phishfan on January 24, 2006, 01:22:40 pm
Let's see; the two sides have now issued a joint statement accepting responsibilities (something the Davis family refused to do initially) and the suit is dropped. Looks like you know exactly what you are talking about.


Title: Re: Antonio Davis goes into the stands in the NBA
Post by: Dphins4me on January 24, 2006, 10:34:30 pm
Let's see; the two sides have now issued a joint statement accepting responsibilities (something the Davis family refused to do initially) and the suit is dropped. Looks like you know exactly what you are talking about.
Thanks.  The Davis's blinked, which is what I said was one of the two options he gave them out of threating a lawsuit. 

I still think its sad he went running to Daddy about this.  Daddy they said I was drunk.  Lets sue or force them to apologize or risk spending money in court over this.

Which choice would you choose? 

I love this line & they are basically telling you what I said.

Michael Axelrod, 22, works for his father and for Deratany, a family friend.

The guy is a flea & is having to ride Daddys coattails & have a family friend employ him