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There is no way the republican party will end this wartime effort before the next election. Historically this country votes Republican during a wartime era.

I'm also of the mind that conflict will only escalate under the watch of Bush and company over the next two years.

A high level commander was recently quoted saying, "Baghdad was just target practice. Real men go to Tehran."

Would you vote for Hilary Clinton if we were at war?

I would consider voting for Hillary just to get her the hell out of NY

Nope,I don't like Hillary Clinton.

Arkansas put the Clintons in the White House for the exact same reason.

Looks like real men will be going to Tehran, because I can't believe the UN will do anything about Iran.  Iraq, Iran, and North Korea were named as the access of evil.  Iraq was first, next comes Iran.  Real men don't hide their heads in the sand and hope the threat goes away (Clinton).

No one would respect the US anymore if a woman were president.  At least with George Bush, they think he's a whack job (and he is), so they won't be getting out of line.  If someone like Hilary were to somehow be president (not gonna happen), foreign nations would act like a classroom with a substitute teacher.

I'd never vote for Hillary Clinton.  But Jtex, you ever heard of Margaret Thatcher?  One.  Tough.  Lady.  You don't need to be a man to send troops to war.

Hillary is a long way from Thatcher, plus the most muscle she flexed was in the Falklands.

I addressed your first thought by stating I'd never vote for Hillary Clinton.  My point is that a female president won't be watching "The View" and "All My Children" all day (nor engaging in any other stereotypical behavior used in the "chicks can't rule the country" argument) while the country gets attacked from all sides.  To believe that she would is, well, retarded.

I would vote for Hillary Clinton.  With her in the White House, look for a balanced budget (which her husband had accomplished already), and a reform for better health care. 

Additionally, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned or a woman with PMS.  Look for her to start sending troops to places like Iran, North Korea, and Cuba to clean out the joints. 

She was already president for 8 years. I think she doesn't get the vote based on time served.  :)

Maybe, maybe not.  Interesting question though...... If the wife of the President is referred to as the First Lady, what happens if there is a female president?

It all depends on her opponent.  I'd probably vote for a moderate Republican, like McCain, before I'd vote for Hillary.  I think that there is too much backstory with her to get any real support.

It doesn't matter, though.  I don't think she can win the Democratic nomination, anyway.

I think this is a mix more than saying Republicans get voted in. During our major wars We had a Democrat in office during our involvement in WW1. There were no elections. WW2 had a Democrat (Roosevelet who served 4 terms) locking the office up. We voted in a Repuiblican during Korea. We went from Rep to Dem to Rep during Vietnam. There were no elections during the first Iraq war. Bush was re-elected during the second Iraq war.

In terms of Hillary, I think it would be a mistake to give her the Democratic nod. I don;t choose parties, I choose people. I do lean toward the liberal views though.

The 2008 election worries me. The Republican frontrunner seems to be McCain, with talk of Rudy Guliani as vice president for whoever gets the nod. I dont trust McCain. I will not vote for Hilary or any other Democrat for that matter. There has been talk of Jeb Bush too. I dont think he would be a good idea either. This may be an election where I will be forced to waste my vote by voting Libertarian or Independant.

 >:( Not only no but FUCK NO!!!!! Not because she is a woman...but because she is Hillary Clinton. Need I say more?

I'm ready to start ordering my Hilary in '08 tshirts. 

I think she'd do great.

Why?

I would love for you to vote Libertarian. Here are some positions you would be "supporting" that I don't think you would agree with.

The end of drug prohibition
Complete end of censorship
Complete privacy (no spying on US citizens)
Opposition to identity cards for any measure (includes voting, border crossing, etc.)

While there are many other ideals you would agree with, from what i know of you on this board these I believe are some fundamental points you would have a very strong disagreement with.

I have no problem with drug legalization. If it happened. There are pros and cons about it.

I do have a problem with censorship, but one person's right to free speech ends when it violates someone elses rights. Also, kids should not be allowed to go see a porno movie, etc.

Complete privacy, I have no problem with. Anyone who is being wiretapped is being tapped because they are receiving phone calls from terrorists. That makes them traitors in my book.

I do think that one should show ID to vote and at border crossings.

Actually, I'm probably more Libertarian than Republican in most cases.

Personally I'm not sure who I'd vote for. It depends on who is running and the platforms they are runnning on.  Basicly I just can't vote Republican or Democrat just because. I think it depends on who is more towards my views based on whatever the hot topic is. Neither side is 100% "just" nor is either side 100% evil. It's weighing out what matters most to you is what is really important. If you just vote party lines then I think your not much of an individual ... but I guess that's self explanatory.

As a registered Independent, I vote for the person, not the party.  I do tend to vote for Republican presidential candidates, because I don't think it's a sin to try to maintain this country's economic and military power, as some people on the left do.  I also see the sense of having lower individual tax rates, because Americans by and large spend what they have, which means the tax savings are just dumped right back into the economy (OK, that's a simplistic explanation of a very complex economic model, but it works somewhat like that).  I'd love to see McCain run, for he reminds me of the "True Republicans" that I admire, like Theodore Roosevelt.

You contradict yourself here. I mean COMPLETE privacy which means no forms of wiretapping without the owners consent. That means no spying for any reason on a US Citizen (terrorist or not). As an extension of this they support that every citizen has the right to encrypt messages without the government trying to break the code..

Maybe so, but if someone in the US is plotting with terrorists, they have betrayed what their citizenship stands for.

I heard something the other day,Since 1980 there's has been a Bush,or a Clinton on the Ballot,will this continue?

I'd be in favor of a woman canidate,but Not Hillary.

I'd like to see some fresh blood in the whitehouse.

I think she's a strong leader.  In my opinion, she's always been the brains of the operations anyway.  Might as well make it official.

If the Dems come up with someone else, I'll have to reevaluate.  However, I would be fine with Hilary and she's the one of the only Dems that's showing any promise in my opnion.  That might change as we near '08.

The only Republican I would consider voting for is McCain.  I would vote Democrat over anyone else, regardless of who was on the ticket (except maybe Lieberman, who I can't stand).

I considered voting for Nader back in 2000, and the results of that election really drove home the point that a vote for [third-party candidate] is the same as voting for the person you least want to win.

I'd love to see a woman elected president, but I'm with ya Lil_B...not Hillary.

Hell, in the interests of getting rid of as many societal roadblocks as possible with one shot, I'd like that female president to either be African American, Latino or Asian, to backhand all the people who say that a minority will never be president. I'd like her to have a physical handicap as well...wheelchair preferred, but if she just has a clubfoot with a pronounced limp...I'm down with that. That will kick all the people who swear the handicapped cannot be president in the television age, squarely in the nads. If she can be a card-carrying carpet-munching lesbian, groovy...if not, then openly bisexual is a must. This will help beat down a lot of the homophobia obstacles this prudish society has in place. Any of the following items in Madam President's resume are bonus: Felony conviction, prior abortion, polygamy, drug use, HIV-positive, Practicing Buddhist, Muslim, Satanist or Scientologist, Father was a circus clown, Mother was a stripper, Brother is now her sister...

What you meant to write was, "In every election since 1976, there has been a Bush or a Dole on the Republican Presidential ticket."

Nope,I saw it on CBS evening news than they went and talked about If Hillary,and Jeb running.

They also mentioned it as if you are (I think it was 49),and you've voted in every presidential election since you were eligible to vote,there has been a Bush,or Clinton on the Ballot.

Doesn't sound right.... 49 goes back 31 years to 1975.  If you're 43-44 then your first election was 1980 and it's right

1976 Ford-Dole vs Carter-Mondale
1980 Carter-Mondale vs Reagan-Bush
1984 Reagan-Bush vs Mondale-Ferraro
1988 Bush-Quayle vs Dukakis-Bentsen
1992 Bush-Quayle vs Clinton-Gore
1996 Clinton-Gore vs Dole-Kemp
2000 Gore-Leiberman vs Bush-Cheney
2004 Bush-Cheney vs Kerry-Dean
2008 ???

1976 Ford-Dole vs Carter-Mondale  You're not old enough to vote
1980 Carter-Mondale vs Reagan-Bush you're 18
1984 Reagan-Bush vs Mondale-Ferraro You're  22
1988 Bush-Quayle vs Dukakis-Bentsen You're  26
1992 Bush-Quayle vs Clinton-Gore You're 30
1996 Clinton-Gore vs Dole-Kemp You're 34
2000 Gore-Leiberman vs Bush-Cheney You're 38
2004 Bush-Cheney vs Kerry-Dean you're  42
2008 You're 46

It was 46,not 49

By looking at Hilary's poll numbers for this site, you have:

14 people who say no.
2 who say yes.
5 who say they would consider it, but probably no.
And 1 who probably would.

From what I've seen, this board is mostly Democrat or liberal, with a handful of moderates, and very few conservative Republican or Libertarian.

Still, I see a landslide against Hilary.

I suspect the outcome in the United States will be similar.