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Title: Seau
Post by: Phishfan on March 02, 2006, 12:06:48 pm
Is anyone else surprised to not see him on the cut list? He would be an additional $2M in cap savings and I really don't think he warrants the $3M salary this year.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Thundergod on March 02, 2006, 12:38:46 pm
It'll happen.  Bye Junior!  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/lordthundergod/wavesmile.gif)


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: DolFan619 on March 02, 2006, 12:40:21 pm
     He'll be cut.  He hasn't stayed healthy in two seasons, his age is a factor, and he costs too much money.  I have a lot of respect for Junior, but his time has passed.  He'll be gone by late this afternoon.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 02, 2006, 12:54:31 pm
I was suprised he was not part of the list from yesterday but I too feel he will be gone by today!!!!!


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: TonyB0D on March 02, 2006, 01:00:01 pm
his jersey was on the online store for $10 - he's being cut!


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: NYFan204 on March 02, 2006, 08:09:19 pm
Seau is a leader and should be kept on the roster. It will make it easier for the Drew Breese transition!!!!


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 02, 2006, 10:01:17 pm
He is a respected player around the league.  I think he should be given the option to restructure and come back for one more year.  I'm buying one of his orange jerseys.  A $70 jersey for $9.97!!!  You can't beat that deal with a stick. 


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: mcduff81 on March 03, 2006, 07:55:43 am
Na Na Na Na
Na Na Na Na
Hey Hey Hey
Goodbye!!!

He is 105 years old and brittle. Hard to lead when you are NEVER on the field.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 03, 2006, 12:38:50 pm
Na Na Na Na
Na Na Na Na
Hey Hey Hey
Goodbye!!!

He is 105 years old and brittle. Hard to lead when you are NEVER on the field.

Word.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Denver_Bronco on March 03, 2006, 12:48:05 pm
I think the waterboy was as important or even more important then Seau has been in his stay in Miami


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: TEKGOD on March 03, 2006, 07:31:07 pm
I think he would be an awesome LB coach one day - sort of like Mike Singletary.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Sunstroke on March 03, 2006, 08:20:27 pm
I think he would be an awesome LB coach one day - sort of like Mike Singletary.

I don't know...I always thought that Singletary was a coach-in-waiting during his playing days, only because he always came across very even keel and thoughtful when he talked about the game. Seau seems a little more feisty and more likely to say something to embarrass himself.

I guess he could become a good coach...I just never really looked at Junior in that light before.




Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Jim Gray on March 04, 2006, 01:16:32 am
I am surprised he wasn't on the list.  Seau has been a liability since he joined the team.  The thought of pissing away 2M on him turns my stomach.  All this talk about "leadership" is a load of crap.  He just doesn't get it done on the field.  I don't care if he agrees to play for free......I don't want him.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Dave Gray on March 04, 2006, 01:29:52 pm
I am surprised he wasn't on the list. Seau has been a liability since he joined the team.

I don't really think this was true last year.  Two years ago, Seau was constantly getting burned in pass coverage...but it seemed to me that last year, they were able to cover him up and use him as more of a lineman, shooting from the LB position.  I didn't see his weakness in pass coverage get exposed last year, like the prior.  I think that our defensive gameplan made the most of him.

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The thought of pissing away 2M on him turns my stomach.
I agree with this.  2 Million is too much for a part time player, coming off of injury, and especially one that isn't very versatile.  I wouldn't mind seeing him here if he would be willing to play for less.  I still think he's an asset to the defense.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 04, 2006, 01:31:59 pm
If anyone wants to purchase an orange Seau jersey for $9.97, I also have an online promo code for $5 off. 


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 04, 2006, 02:07:12 pm
Here's a possible thought on why he wasn't on the cut list. If he decides to retire, as opposed to us cutting him, does it help us cap wise?  I'm not sure how salary numbers get pro rated if a guy retires.  It will definitely save him some face- he leaves the game by his own choice instead of because he gets cut. Maybe Saban and his agent have agreed to something along these lines, if it helps our cap number.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: fyo on March 04, 2006, 02:58:30 pm
I don't think there's any difference in salary cap between cutting a player and him retiring.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: bsfins on March 04, 2006, 03:46:34 pm
Seau,has stated a few times he wants atleast 1 more year....He feels he can still play...


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Jim Gray on March 04, 2006, 04:35:11 pm
Seau,has stated a few times he wants atleast 1 more year....He feels he can still play...

I don't think I've ever heard a player say "I'm all washed up and it's time to retire."  When allowed, the vast majority of professional atheletes play too long.  I trust Saban to make the right choice. 


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 04, 2006, 06:21:20 pm
Seau,has stated a few times he wants atleast 1 more year....He feels he can still play...

He also wants another shot at a title.  If he's willing to restructure and save us money on the cap, I would have no problem giving him another year.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: bsfins on March 05, 2006, 01:44:36 am
I wasn't endorsing him to come back I've always felt he was washed up before he got here,and does whatever the hell he wants.He doesn't play the system well,tries to make plays...but misses the tackle leaving the rest of his team mates in a lurch.Ever notice,since Seau has been a dolphin...He makes a good play he's the only person celebrating....If Jason taylor,Zach...Just about anyone else makes a play...There is other players celebrating with them...

...He's stated that he wanted to come back and play for one more year,and stated it my not be with the Dolphins,but he'll play somewhere....(It was in a story,When the dolphins went out to play the Chargers)


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Dphins4me on March 05, 2006, 09:31:56 am
Seau,has stated a few times he wants atleast 1 more year....He feels he can still play...
Yea, but his body doesn't feel the same way.   The mind does not age like the body does.  He is done.  I hate it when a great one simply wants to hang on to the spot light for just a sec longer.  Marino stayed too long.  Most do not know when its over, unless you slap them in the face.

I really cannot see any team signing him, just to watch him get injured.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Dphins4me on March 05, 2006, 09:35:07 am
He also wants another shot at a title.  If he's willing to restructure and save us money on the cap, I would have no problem giving him another year.
The thing is I do not see him taking a backup spot & being happy about it.  If he will play for the vet min. then sure let him stick around & teach & be a backup.  However, no way should he be starting.

Seau I think will still believe he is a starter though, which when healthy he might can be, but his body is breaking down & cannot last a full year.  His injuries have not been major injuries, & that is a great example of his body breaking down. 


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 06, 2006, 06:00:31 pm
NFL Radio just announced that he was released today. I just found the story on the Fins site...

Dolphins Release Junior Seau
March 6, 2006


The Miami Dolphins today terminated the contract of linebacker Junior Seau. In addition, the club announced that it waived tight end Lorenzo Diamond.



 
“One of the most difficult parts of my job is having to release players, and the past week has emphasized this fact,” said Dolphins Head Coach Nick Saban. “This is especially true when those players made significant contributions to the success of the team in the past. Ideally, we would like to keep many of those players on our roster, but we are simply not able to do that.”

Seau, a veteran of 16 NFL seasons, spent the last three years with the Dolphins after being acquired in a 2003 trade with San Diego, with whom he spent the first 13 years of his career (1990-2002). Last year with Miami, he played in seven games before being placed on injured reserve with an Achilles injury on November 24.




Title: Re: Seau
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 06, 2006, 10:26:50 pm
That sucks.  I will say this though.  Once this deal gets done and the cap room is clearly set, Saban may be willing to bring him back for less money. 


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Jeno on March 07, 2006, 07:40:33 am
Yeah im with Tommy on this one, cos i think Seau is an absolute legend.

I hope Saban gives him another year. Simply because i think the Dolphins could do with some more hard hitting players beyond the D-Line (apart from the Legendary Zach Thomas). Seau is a tough player, and at a cut-price for 2006, yeah i'd take him.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: mcduff81 on March 07, 2006, 07:44:17 am
Larry Csonka is a legend as well. It doesn't mean I him on the Dolphins.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 07, 2006, 10:00:53 am
Seau hasn't been able to stay healthy for the last two years. He's a great guy and all, but let him waste a roster spot on somebody else's team.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Jeno on March 07, 2006, 12:35:30 pm
Larry Csonka is a legend as well. It doesn't mean I him on the Dolphins.

Thats true i suppose lads, its just a shame to see him go this way i think!


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Jim Gray on March 07, 2006, 06:38:20 pm
It's not just salary cap, it's also the roster limit.  Each year we end up cutting players that could help the team, but we just don't have the room.  Seau's value isn't enough to justify a spot on the roster, regardless of the salary.

I recognize that he was a great player and will be a lock for the HOF, but those days are gone. 


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: DolFan619 on March 08, 2006, 10:18:20 pm
That sucks.  I will say this though.  Once this deal gets done and the cap room is clearly set, Saban may be willing to bring him back for less money. 

     I have a great deal of respect for Junior Seau.  However, as sad as it is to say...  he's done.  He's well past his prime and it's shame that his tenure with the Dolphins went the way it did.  His time is up, Channing Crowder and Derrick Pope's time is now.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 09, 2006, 02:12:32 pm
I am kind of sad to see him go. I have always been a huge fan of Juniors and was really excited when he came here. Unfortunately everyone has their time to hang them up and his looks to be now.  :'(


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Dave Gray on March 09, 2006, 02:52:01 pm
I have always been a huge fan of Juniors

You and Michael Jackson both.


Title: Re: Seau
Post by: Thundergod on March 09, 2006, 02:57:20 pm
I have always been a huge fan of Juniors

You and Michael Jackson both.

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Title: Re: Seau
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on March 10, 2006, 01:54:34 pm
You and Michael Jackson both.

LMFAO....nice Dave.....real nice!!!!!  :)