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Title: CBA gets a 6 year extension.
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 08, 2006, 08:52:21 pm
NFL owners approve six-year CBA extensionESPN.com news services


NFL owners have approved a six-year extension of the collective bargaining agreement by a vote of 30-2 Wednesday night.

Buffalo and Cincinnati were the two teams to vote against the proposal, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

 


Good! Let free agency begin!


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 08, 2006, 08:54:07 pm
A little more info from ESPN:

• Free agency will start at 12:01 a.m. ET Friday, 24 hours later than scheduled.
• The 2006 salary cap will be around $105 million.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 08, 2006, 09:03:20 pm
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!   THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Brian Fein on March 08, 2006, 10:02:34 pm
the best news i've heard in a long long long long long time.

Thanks, Philly


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Sunstroke on March 08, 2006, 10:08:07 pm

I just came back in from the blimp base ride and heard Rich Eisen say the words "labor peace" as I was coming through the door. I am an extremely happy puppy...let the FA season "officially" begin!  ;D




Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Sunstroke on March 08, 2006, 10:22:27 pm
A little more info from ESPN:

• Free agency will start at 12:01 a.m. ET Friday, 24 hours later than scheduled.
• The 2006 salary cap will be around $105 million.

I just heard Adam Schefter say that it's actually going to be $102 million...and I just heard Upshaw say 102-103.






Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: DolFan619 on March 08, 2006, 10:25:28 pm
     Thank goodness this mess is over!  Finally, the free agency period can begin!


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 08, 2006, 10:26:52 pm
I just heard Adam Schefter say that it's actually going to be $102 million...and I just heard Upshaw say 102-103.





Either way, its better than what it currently is.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: jtex316 on March 08, 2006, 11:03:08 pm
I'm also glad to see that the owners pulled together and didn't allow an NHL lockout type thing to possibly happen.

Good job everyone, except you pricks in Buffalo and Cincinnati (there goes UK_Dolfan's Dallas and Washington theory)


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 08, 2006, 11:06:59 pm
I'm also glad to see that the owners pulled together and didn't allow an NHL lockout type thing to possibly happen.

Good job everyone, except you pricks in Buffalo and Cincinnati (there goes UK_Dolfan's Dallas and Washington theory)
The surprising thing about this is that two smaller market teams voted against it. The biggest hold up was expected to be the revenue sharing plan. On NFL Radio today they were saying how they need 2/3's of the teams to say yes in order for it to pass. So that would be 24 teams. The odd part is that there are 9 teams that are the "revenue generating" teams (Miami is one of them). Leaving 23 revenue losers. They said that most revenue generators would be against the revenue sharing portion of the deal. Yet they all voted for yes, and the only two teams to vote no are revenue losing teams.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 08, 2006, 11:10:32 pm
The odd part is that there are 9 teams that are the "revenue generating" teams (Miami is one of them). Leaving 23 revenue losers.

Surprised to hear that.  From what I've read, if the agreement had not been reached and 2007 would've been an uncapped year,  the Dolphins would've been a "middle-of-the-pack" team in terms of spending money to sign free agents. 


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 08, 2006, 11:14:21 pm
Surprised to hear that.  From what I've read, if the agreement had not been reached and 2007 would've been an uncapped year,  the Dolphins would've been a "middle-of-the-pack" team in terms of spending money to sign free agents. 

I guess "revenue generating" doesn't always transalte into "spend happy". I remember Houston, Dallas, New England, Washington and Philadelphia were also on the list. I can't recall the others.

Surprisingly, both New York teams, both Bay area teams and Chicago were not on the list (despite being in huge markets).


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Denver_Bronco on March 09, 2006, 07:17:00 am
Welcome to Denver TO & Jamal Lewis


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 09, 2006, 07:35:13 am
Here's why old guys should not be allowed to own teams. Despite the fact that he is one of the two lowest revenue generating teams (Cincy being the other- both teams that voted no), and that the new revenue sharing plan will make him money, Ralph Wilson voted no. Here's his thinking:

"I didn't understand it," said Buffalo's Ralph Wilson. "It is a very complicated issue and I didn't believe we should be rushing to vote in 45 minutes. I'm not a dropout ... or maybe I am. I didn't understand it."

He also forgot to take his medicine after eating his applesauce for dinner and crapped his pants during the meeting.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 09, 2006, 07:43:30 am
I guess "revenue generating" doesn't always transalte into "spend happy". I remember Houston, Dallas, New England, Washington and Philadelphia were also on the list. I can't recall the others.

Surprisingly, both New York teams, both Bay area teams and Chicago were not on the list (despite being in huge markets).

That's also interesting.  Because the article I read classified all of those teams as high revenue and the owners as "deep pocketed".  It listed Huizenga's pockets as "not-so-deep".  That's why it labeled the Dolphins as a middle-of-the-pack team. 


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Brian Fein on March 09, 2006, 10:36:28 am
Here's why old guys should not be allowed to own teams. Despite the fact that he is one of the two lowest revenue generating teams (Cincy being the other- both teams that voted no), and that the new revenue sharing plan will make him money, Ralph Wilson voted no. Here's his thinking:

"I didn't understand it," said Buffalo's Ralph Wilson. "It is a very complicated issue and I didn't believe we should be rushing to vote in 45 minutes. I'm not a dropout ... or maybe I am. I didn't understand it."

He also forgot to take his medicine after eating his applesauce for dinner and crapped his pants during the meeting.
This is embarrassing to the Buffalo Bills organization.  If you don't know what the hell is going on, send a representative who's not a moron.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Phishfan on March 09, 2006, 11:56:27 am
That's also interesting.  Because the article I read classified all of those teams as high revenue and the owners as "deep pocketed".  It listed Huizenga's pockets as "not-so-deep".  That's why it labeled the Dolphins as a middle-of-the-pack team. 

Wayne's net worth in 2001 was $1.8 billion. Those are pretty deep pockets if you ask me. He is constantly on the Forbe's list.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: ADeadSmitty on March 09, 2006, 12:13:20 pm
The owner's net worth doesn't matter. What matters is whether the team pulls in enough revenue to support a big payroll. Why would an owner want to pour money down the drain just because he's wealthy?


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Jim Gray on March 09, 2006, 12:16:44 pm
He also forgot to take his medicine after eating his applesauce for dinner and crapped his pants during the meeting.

I saw the clip on sports center......he looked like a dottering old fool.  No wonder they brought Levy back in.  At 112, Levy can offer a youthful perspective for the Bills owners.

By the way Philly, great line.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Jim Gray on March 09, 2006, 12:34:46 pm
Good job everyone, except you pricks in Buffalo and Cincinnati (there goes UK_Dolfan's Dallas and Washington theory)

Maybe it blows my theory.......maybe not.  I called out Dallas and Washington because that's what was being reported.  I don't claim to have any special connection where I'm getting the inside scoop.  The reports make sense, so I believe them.  Jones and Snyder are a-typical owners.  They are relatively new to the "owners club", super rich, generate more money, get involved in team decisions and would benefit the most from a change to the rules.  Plus, it's just my opinion that they are both assholes who would do something like this.

From what little I've heard, both Jones and Snyder came around after Upshaw said the players wouldn't negotiate until the owners resolved revenue sharing.   Maybe they saw that it was going to get the votes it needed to pass, and figured it would be better to go ahead and support it.  Who knows.  Something was said about Jones being more afraid of the likely alternative. 

As for the 2 teams that voted against the proposal, I think we can dismiss Buffalo, since it's clear that Wilson only voted against it because he couldn't understand it.  I have no idea why Cincy voted "no"; but I'm sure it will come out shortly.

Props to Upshaw for helping Tagliabue get the deal done.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: raptorsfan29 on March 09, 2006, 12:46:32 pm
i like it and dislike the new agreement

i like it because Miami will have more cap to work with

i hate it because new england has a chance to be even better.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: DolFan619 on March 09, 2006, 12:57:06 pm

He also forgot to take his medicine after eating his applesauce for dinner and crapped his pants during the meeting.

     I have been laughing at this line all morning!  Philly, you made my day.  OMG, that is hilarious!


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: gocowboys31 on March 09, 2006, 01:02:19 pm
Maybe it blows my theory.......maybe not.  I called out Dallas and Washington because that's what was being reported.  I don't claim to have any special connection where I'm getting the inside scoop.  The reports make sense, so I believe them.  Jones and Snyder are a-typical owners.  They are relatively new to the "owners club", super rich, generate more money, get involved in team decisions and would benefit the most from a change to the rules.  Plus, it's just my opinion that they are both assholes who would do something like this.

From what little I've heard, both Jones and Snyder came around after Upshaw said the players wouldn't negotiate until the owners resolved revenue sharing.   Maybe they saw that it was going to get the votes it needed to pass, and figured it would be better to go ahead and support it.  Who knows.  Something was said about Jones being more afraid of the likely alternative. 

As for the 2 teams that voted against the proposal, I think we can dismiss Buffalo, since it's clear that Wilson only voted against it because he couldn't understand it.  I have no idea why Cincy voted "no"; but I'm sure it will come out shortly.

Props to Upshaw for helping Tagliabue get the deal done.

Dude, you couldnt be more wrong in your assumption about jones. From what im reading he was very instrumental in getting the deal done. Of course he wants what's best for his team, but he also knows the league is far more important. Also you do know that 24 votes were needed for ratification, so jones and synder werent the only high revenue clubs who needed convincing on the proposal.

Cap or no cap jones is will spare no expense at getting players he really wants........Bottom line!!!!!


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Phishfan on March 09, 2006, 01:04:37 pm
The owner's net worth doesn't matter. What matters is whether the team pulls in enough revenue to support a big payroll. Why would an owner want to pour money down the drain just because he's wealthy?

I would say the owners net worth definitely would have something to do with it. There are teams in the league that do not generate revenue, so there are quite a few owners that are "pouring money down the drain". How would you suggest a team that does not generate revenue support it's payroll...out of the owners pocket.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 09, 2006, 03:01:11 pm

Cap or no cap jones is will spare no expense at getting players he really wants........Bottom line!!!!!

Until you end up with $23 million in "dead money" on your cap.  Then you just flat-out suck for a year.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 09, 2006, 04:12:08 pm
As for the 2 teams that voted against the proposal, I think we can dismiss Buffalo, since it's clear that Wilson only voted against it because he couldn't understand it.  I have no idea why Cincy voted "no"; but I'm sure it will come out shortly.

Here's an interesting note they brought up on NFL Radio yesterday-
The two teams who voted no are the lowest in revenue generating. Additionally, they are also the two teams who have named their stadiums for people in connection with the franchise as opposed to selling the naming rights.

Kansas City hasn't sold naming rights and Miami hasn't sold the naming rights. In theory they had it sold, and the owner of the naming rights went belly up.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Philly Fin Fan on March 09, 2006, 04:15:13 pm
     I have been laughing at this line all morning!  Philly, you made my day.  OMG, that is hilarious!

Thanks. I thought it was funny as well. I actually was cracking up as I typed it. (Maybe I will finally make it to the "famous quotes" thread!)


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: YoFuggedaboutit on March 09, 2006, 04:27:00 pm
Thanks. I thought it was funny as well. I actually was cracking up as I typed it. (Maybe I will finally make it to the "famous quotes" thread!)

That definitely qualifies as a famous quote from you.  Trouble is, rather than take the time to delete all the Carnage-Denver bickering posts, some lazy mod decided to lock the thread. 


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: Brian Fein on March 10, 2006, 12:07:48 am
That definitely qualifies as a famous quote from you.  Trouble is, rather than take the time to delete all the Carnage-Denver bickering posts, some lazy mod decided to lock the thread. 
I locked the thread, and rightfully so.  Its not my job to clean up after you children.  Get your boys to stop bickering like 3rd graders in every single thread and we won't have to lock them anymore.


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS: It's Done!
Post by: fyo on March 10, 2006, 07:28:21 pm
This is embarrassing to the Buffalo Bills organization.  If you don't know what the hell is going on, send a representative who's not a moron.
I disagree. He's being honest, unlike the other schmucks in there. The proposal was cooked up at the last minute (partly as an amalgam of previous proposals) and the owners got 45 minutes to read it, consider all the ramifications and then vote on it. Forty-five minutes! For such a complex document, that's not nearly enough time for someone to realistically be able to REALLY understand it.