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Gentlemen, our new quarterback: (According to the Pioneer Press)


Culpepper expected to be dealt to Dolphins

BY SEAN JENSENPioneer PressDaunte Culpepper is about to get his wish.
The Vikings are expected to trade their frustrated and injured Pro Bowl quarterback to the Miami Dolphins today for a second-round draft pick in next month's NFL draft.
Vikings officials and Culpepper didn't immediately respond to interview requests.
The 11th overall pick of the Vikings in the 1999 NFL draft, Culpepper's seven-year tenure with the team included three Pro Bowl appearances.
But after a disappointing start to his 2005 season, Culpepper tore three of four ligaments in his right knee Oct. 30 against the Carolina Panthers, and his attempts to upgrade the 10-year, $102 million contract he signed in 2003 have been rebuffed by the Vikings.
Culpepper said last Wednesday that Vikings management sent him a "disturbing e-mail" that prompted him to request a trade or his release. That night, after learning of his e-mail correspondence to news outlets, the Vikings aggressively started shopping him to other clubs, including the Miami Dolphins and the Oakland Raiders.
In an interview last week, owner Zygi Wilf said he had to change course from his original plan of keeping Culpepper.
"He seems to feel that his future is best served somewhere else," Wilf told the Pioneer Press. "We have to move on for the best interests of our team

shit..and I hope I eat my words. No pun intended.

From the Sun-Sentinel:

By Alex Marvez
Sun-Sentinel.com
Posted March 14 2006, 1:12 PM EST

 
The Dolphins have found their new starting quarterback: Daunte Culpepper.

FOX Sports has reported that Minnesota has traded Culpepper to the Dolphins for a second-round draft choice. The trade is contingent upon a passed physical by Culpepper, who is recovering from three torn knee ligaments.
 
The Dolphins turned to Culpepper after being unsuccessful in negotiating a contract with free-agent quarterback Drew Brees, who met with the team the three previous days.
 

LMFAO....

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Oh man i just fell out of my chair in laughter ! What a treat. I am going to be smiling the rest of the day. Classic phin move.

I may be one of the few people that favored Culpepper over Brees, so let me tell ya, Denver_Bronco...if Jake Plummer could be rehabilitated at 29, so can Culpepper.  I'm hopeful.

Aww, crap :(

Good Luck Dol-fans.  Culpepper is better then Frerotte, but don't expect Dan Marino.

Anybody know how healthy/unhealthy he is?

He'll be ready by December.....  :D

He's supposed to be coming to Miami (from Orlando) for a physical right now (according to the Herald).  ESPN has been saying he may not be able to play until October, but I don't know how accurate that is.

The plus side is he'll be ready sooner than Brees, most likely in time for camp.

The plus side is we can open up the passing game.

The plus side is he's the best QB we've had since Marino.

The down side is 1+ fumbles per game. 

Damn... :(

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The Dolphins still had concerns about Drew Brees' Shoulder....Oh well...I think this is sort of a Short term solution....Now the pressure is on our first round draft pick

I can't stop laughing....

I can't see them taking a QB in round 1 if we dealt #2 for a QB.  I think its almost a given we go after a top CB at 16 and wait it out for the third round.

You wish you could trade in Plummer for Culpepper. ::)

Vikings deal Culpepper to Miami for second-round pick
By John Clayton
ESPN.com

The Dolphins decided to stop waiting for Chargers quarterback Drew Brees to lower his contract demands and opted to give the Vikings a second-round choice to acquire quarterback Daunte Culpepper.

Culpepper had been talking to the Dolphins for the past week, expressing his desire to be with the Dolphins along with showing a willingness to rework his contract to fit into the Dolphins salary cap. Contract talks between the Dolphins and Brees have been stalled because the Saints had more money and more guarantees on the table from the Saints.

Vikings coach Brad Childress said recently Culpepper is on schedule in his rehab from surgery in which he tore three knee ligaments after having a trainer fly to Florida to meet with Culpepper. The recovery time from such major surgery is 12 months, but Culpepper has told the Dolphins that he's ahead of schedule and may be able to play before September.

Finding a quarterback this offseason was Nick Saban's main objective. Though he liked Brees, he was unwilling to give him $10 million in guarantees after he is coming off shoulder surgery.

Culpepper's trade clears the stage for the Saints to get Brees.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2368259

I think I need to rephrase my statement about the first round pick...I just feel our first round pick needs to be a good one...because we just blew our second round pick....

No way. I'll take the guy that has an actual knee, not a plastic one....LMAO

And I'll take the guy with an actual arm, not a noodle one.

Ok, it's a wash... :D

I'll just say this:  Culpepper may not be a HOF quarterback (then again, he's young enough to change that), but let's remember that he threatened Dan Marino's TD record a few years ago throwing to Moss and 3 "who dat" receivers.  Here he'll have 2 very good receivers, an excellent tight end, and two excellent running backs.  I'm pumped to see how this goes.  

Besides, I'd rather a guy that can't move so well (after knee injuries) to a guy that throws like..he just had shoulder surgery...and Brees may come back from surgery the way Pennington did last year.  As for the fumbles, maybe a loss of running ability will lead to less fumbles (he'll take off running less)...but then, I'm ever the optimist.

Wow.. I kinda bummed.  I really wanted Brees.

i think daunte is the best 2nd round pick ever  for this franchise

With the proper coaching, you can cure a case of fumbilitis.  See also: Green, Ahman; Barber, Tiki.

Let's hope people can give the proper coaching, and that his knee comes back.

Since Moss left Minnesota, I said Culpepper was an overrated bum.  I hope he proves me wrong.

not so fast..he had his best year when Moss was hurt most of the season(2004)

assuming we keep Gus now???

I am afraid of the large amount of boats available in the Miami area

I would rather have him than Matt Roth.

AJ Feely cost us about the same..how funny is that?

Makes my stomach turn....

I'd rather have Matt Roth

You're not going to get a better player in the second round this year.  I hope Rick Spielman is watching this.

Totally agree.

Only time will tell which QB will work out better.  

Saban sure is not a person you want to mess around with. Brees must be hating himself now.

you would rather have Matt Roth than Daunte Culpepper?

Stay Tuned.  Save this thread and get back to me in 3 years.

The down side is 2+ INT's per game.......but hey we are almost accustomed to that.  ::)


You know I too wanted Brees and was not a real fan of Dante by any means. Bottom line he is better than any QB we have had here Post Dan Marino. I hope he gets healthy in time to play a full season and I hope he prospers here in Miami for the sake of the team. I think the team needs to write a clause into his contract that states he is to avoid all party boats.  :P

Now do the Dolphins make a push for TO as well? I would hope not but there had been specualtion earlier that he wanted to come here. Does this make the offer a little sweeter for him? Not that I want him but do you think the team might be looking that direction?

I love this move.  More to follow in the next "Maine Objective."

I don't see TO in the future of the Miami Dolphins.

I would have preferred Brees, but you can't argue this deal too much.

Mawae and Givins both signed with Titans.

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php/topic,8866.0.html

I hate Culpepper.

Now I'm gonna have to hear about him for years. Ugh.

He offered to rework his contract and he has never taken a snap with this team. I kind of like that, it shows he wants to be a team player!!!!!

Or that he'd do anything to get out of Minnesota...

It's a risky move, but I like it.  He's obviously better than Frerrote for proven reasons.  Also a good choice considering Jay Cutler most likely won't be around at 16 after tearing it up in the eyes of every scout in the '06 Scouting Combine.  Culpepper needs work, especially with fumbling and accuracy, but these are things that can be improved/fixed with good coaching.  I like the fact that Nick Saban is not afraid to take risks....he's got BALLS unlike Wannstedt.  

You don't think a 2nd rounder for AJ Feeley is ballsy?

Well...one positive for the Dolphins - he can eclipse Dan Marino's career rushing yards in a SINGLE GAME!!! :)

oops..missed that one.

Anyone know if Brees decided to go to the Saints, and then we traded for Daunte... or if we traded, and then he agreed to go with the Saints?  I hope we did it on our terms.

Good point!!!!!


Something I don't think he has ever had!!!!!


That is wrong on so many levels.....but 100% true lol!!!!!  ;D

ESPN is reporting that Brees signed with the Saints cause they were the only team left that was interested in him after the Fins got C-Pep.

Just heard the good news!!!!!   Damnit,  I got on here late, but I see I'm in the minority here so let me just say this:

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS SSSSSSSS!!!!!

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We have ourselves a damn QB,  finally!  Frerotte or Culpepper?  Gee lemme think.    ::)   
No one says this guy is the next Marino,  but he sure is a hell of an upgrade to what we have now,  God!  Everyone knew there were no QB's that were going to be available in the draft for us,  and Brees was thinking more $$$ than anything else.  What other QB's were left?  Backup free agents of the NFL?  No thank you,  we've shuffled through backups ever since Dan,  it's about time we get someone who has proven himself as a starter. 

Hey Daunte!!!   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v693/lordthundergod/welcome.gif)

Hey John,  it's you and me vs. everyone else here! 

i kinda agree. a (potentially) great qb who still has 5-7 years left for only a 2nd round pic, that may end up being a steal.

or, it could not work out. still, i think it is the smart gamble.

i guess it does make sense, better a knee than a throwing shoulder.

i am excited.

hilarious!

also good point about aj costing us the same! damn that fucking wanny

HELLLL YESSSSSS

ok Brees and Culpepper are both dope and better then anythin we've had wearin our colors since Dan agreed ????

yes so stop bitchin and pop the champagne

hell yes i gotta go to openin day now to see the approval daunte gets when he runs out the tunnel

HELL YES a FUCKIN QB

we can actually run outs now wit out havin them go the other way

How about when he fails the physical ? How great would that be ? ...LMAO.

no complaints here either, as long as we don't end up with that sorry ass jake plummer, oh wait thats right he's too busy throwing game for the donkos.  Hey denver you still have mike an... oh wait you still have tatum bell... for fat ass ron dayne to pick his butt with ;)

Jvides wrote..

Mcduff wrote

That was with Scott Linehan,with players he was fairly familar with...Let me remind you Scott Linehan is the Head coach of the Rams now.

Our O-coordinator is Mike Mularky.... :-\

7 games without Randy Moss and Scott Linehann....
64.4 Completion % 1564 Yrds 6 Td's 12INT's 72 QB rating 5 fumbles 3 lost

And no Knee Injury to think about...

DAMNIT!

Culpepper's injury is much worse than Brees'. Even Culpepper's own doctor says it'll be September before he even has a chance of playing.

The problem is that Culpepper blew his ACL, MCL and meniscus. This is bad, really bad. Culpepper will probably be 100% by the start of the season, the 2007 season, that is, providing he doesn't hit any setbacks.

I can understand not wanting to give Brees a $10M sigining bonus, but I would have rather gone after a different quarterback or even waited until next year. This smells a bit too much like panic with the management feeling the presure to "solve" the quarterback situation NOW.

dude here are your choices, a potential rookie flop, a player coming off of knee injury, or a greedy asshole with a throwing shoulder injury, do you see a 5 star choice here? I sure dont!

u cats cry

we needed a QB, we got one of the best the NFL has to offer as far as i'm concerned

a bumb knee on a qb is much better then a bum arm in my opinion since qb's get paid to THROW and not RUN

i might of ratherd brees but i am in no means dissappointed that we got Culpepper atleast it aint another AJ Feely noname fool that sat the bench

I agree.  Culpepper had an off year in 2005.  I think he will return to the form he was in 2004, and we'll have our franchise QB for years. 

Let's hope he'll be ok. As long as someone can get him to throw the ball away if he doesn't have an open receiver rather than trying to run for the first season, he should be ok.

That is a matter of opinion and up for debate.

Been so busy today that this is the first chance I've had to chime in on the Culpepper signing.

I am majorly concerned about his injury. EVEN if he passes his physical, I'm still worried that his knee could go at any time. That said, if he is healthy and can maintain his health over the next 2-3 seasons, I think this could end up being a very good signing.

I'm still a little bummed though...I had my heart set on either Brees or Cutler. Daunte dammed well better be healthy!


I can't tell you how glad I am that you don't come down for tailgating action at Dolphins games, because a judge has already told me that if I beat another obnoxious idiot to a pulp, I go to jail. You seem to bring out that kind of anger in me...it's probably for the best that we don't meet.


If Daunte is healthy...he's a much better QB than Jake.

I wish we had drafted a young QB -- Cutler, if he fell to us, or just some projects in the fourth or fifth rounds. That is the way to mold quarterbacks -- get 'em when they're young, impressionable, and willing to spend a year or two on the bench learning the ropes, then burn the system into their brains until they're calling audibles in their sleep. Culpepper isn't washed up but he's not young either, and while he's had awesome years, those were all with the best receiver in the game -- and he's had plenty of mediocre years.

Not only is the Culpepper trade not going to work for the Dolphins, it's also a particularly shitty way for the Dolphins to screw up. Nothing is more boring than picking up some other team's spoiled retread veteran. I would much rather have a young QB to get excited about, and whose development we could track, than get a guy like Culpepper in here and fold my arms, waiting for him to impress me.

I do like that we only gave up a second-round pick though.

I would have prefered Brees, but, after seeing what happened to Pennington with a similar injury, it may work out for the best. With the knee injury, Dante may be less inclined to run, but for a QB, that is not a bad thing. I think the knee injury is far worse for a RB than a QB.

More like moronic.  But hey, what can you expect from a guy like Rick Spielman??

Count me on your side.

DAUNTE DAUNTE!!!!
HE'S OUR MAN!!!!
THE FIRST REAL QB!!!!
WE'VE HAD SINCE DAN!!!!!

I would have loved to get Brees too, but you can't look a gift horse in the mouth, and I think the trade we pulled off today will pay big dividends for the next half decade.

Please stop making LAME cheers!

Sorry I wasn't around today, but I did hear the news this afternoon.
I wanted Brees over Culpepper, but I'm glad we have him now.
Here's my take:
Apparently we had doctors checking out Drew all day yesterday. According to reports, it was after those "inspections" that Saban decided to trade for Culpepper. This tells me that the doctors really didn't feel comfortable with the way Brees was healing. Saban held his line on the Brees offer, although Brees wanted more money. Saban opted to go with Culpepper, so I have the faith in his judgement. According to ESPN, within minutes of us making the Culpepper deal, Condon called New Orleans and accepted their offer for Brees. This tells me Brees was worried that Saban might mention in the press release that he was concerned about Brees' shoulder. Brees jumped on the New Orleans offer before they heard this and pulled back their offer. Brees had said in a few interviews that he preferred Miami. If thats the case, why didn't he jump at our offer?

Now, back to Culpepper. Yes, he had a bad year without Linehan and Moss last year. But think of it like this. If he had a "great" year without them in 2005, do you think he would've been available for such a low price? And a 2nd round pick for an established Pro-Bowl QB is a low price. Secondly, although Linehan is not here, we are still running his offense. You know, the offensive system that was built around Culpepper. The same one that made Guss Frerotte look halfway good last year. I think Culpepper will step right in and play well. As for not having Moss, well, Moss didn't do too well without Culpepper, so maybe they both needed each other, not one needed the other more. To answer that, all I have to say is look at OUR #84. I've always been a huge Chambers' fan, and he looked pretty good with Frerotte throwing to him, so why wouldn't he look great with Culpepper throwing to him?

So heres what Culpepper has to do. He needs to hire an agent. ASAP. He needs to stop thinking he can handkle the contract stuff himself, hitre an agent and worry about the on the field stuff. Let the agent worry about the money and the other issues.

I am pretty cool with this acquisition and look forward to him playing for us. I'm on board with Culpepper!



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I'm really surprised by some of the stuff I just read in this thread.  For starters, Culpepper is far superior to little 6'0" Brees.  His Pro Bowl days are over without Gates and LT and the Chargers system.  What a boneheaded decision to go to NFL hell.

Culpepper has only been playing in the NFL since 2000 and has been in 3 Pro Bowls already.  I can't name one RB he has had either.  Credit Randy Moss if you like, but I think that's a cheap cop out for people who don't like him for whatever reason.  Culpepper threw for 4700+ yards in 2004 and close to 4000 of those were NOT to Moss.  The kid has game, no doubt.  He is a great QB on his way to being an elite QB if he can stay healthy. 

This is the biggest signing since Dan Marino was drafted.  Bigger than Ricky what's his name even.  How any Dolphins fan can not get what just happened is beyond me.  The only explaination I can come up with is that they hibernated during the Jay, AJ, and Gus years. 

Brees' injury is far more dangerous than Culpepper's.  If Culpepper doesn't recover well, he'll be almost completely immobile (read: Marino, Bledsoe); a significant drawback, but still potentially viable.  If Brees doesn't recover, he's following in Pennington's footsteps... immediate and early retirement.

Worst case may be worse for Brees, but at some point, what's the difference? The problem is that the best case is much worse for Culpepper.

That said, I'm beginning to wonder if Culpepper's knee injury isn't a blessing in disguise. It just might stop him from attempting bone-head runs and cut off the top of his fumblelitis.

Uhh, what?  Surely you aren't arguing that Brees has more talent/potential than Culpepper?

Look at their best years so far (both in 2004)...

Brees:
262cmp/400att
65.5% cmp. pct.
3159 yds
7.9 ypa
27 TD
7 INT

Culpepper:
379cmp/548att
69.2 cmp. pct.
4717 yds
8.6  ypa
39 TD
11 INT

Brees had a good year.  Culpepper had an amazing one.

If we're looking at potential downside, Brees is worse.  If we're looking at potential upside, Culpepper is better.  I can definitely understand Saban's decision making process on this.

What in the hell does this mean? Best case scenario is Culpepper heals and goes on to be an all-pro leading the Dolphins. How is that bad?

What a score! And all for a 2nd rounder...

I think the general consensus is clear: It doesn't matter if you wanted Brees or Culpepper....we got Pepper and the team will be better because of it.

On a side note, I think it's great the way that Nick saw exactly where the holes were in this team and has gone right to work on patching them up. I can't wait to see what he does with the draft picks we have.

Why all this hate for Culpepper? This in the end my friends, was the best choice for MIA. The Saints plopped $60 mil with $10 mil up front & another $12 option in his 2nd year for a guy with a serious injury that directly affects his throwing. I don't care how good you are, serious shoulder injury affects even the best of them - it even affected Dan Marino in his last season. As for the disses regarding not having Moss or Linehan, I'm pretty sure having the luxury of handing the rock over to the best RB in the game today had a lot to do with Brees success. Saban has already gone on record to say that the offense will basically remain the same as when Scott was here, so Mularkey isn't expected to reinvent the wheel. Thumbs up for this move.

Two years ago people would have given up half our team for him. Now we complain because he is horrible or overated in some's opinion.  ::)  Personally I feel we got a steal as well as a great player.  I have to wonder if Saban't interest in Brees was a ploy to drive down Minnesota's price? A second rounder is quite a great deal for any starter!

its a CF siting, enjoying the offseason?

I am hoping that bringing in Culpepper is also going to cause more Dolphins related events around Orlando.

Yes and it just got a lot better!!



That is waayyy cool !!! I hadn't thought of that but just imagine what is going to happen to the NFL's phones now? They thought they caught a lot of crap about the Jags pushing the Dolphins off of tv ... well that bandwagon just got much larger in Central Florida!!!  ;D

Read the parent post! We were talking about the seriousness of the relative INJURIES, not about their talent.

Best case for Culpepper is that he is 100% by the end of the season. Best case for Brees is that he is 100% by opening day kickoff.

In his career, Culpepper has posted a career passer rating of 91.5, including a single-season best of 110.9. His career mark ranks fifth all-time in NFL history while his season figure is fourth:

CAREER PASSER RATING
1. Steve Young (1985-99) - 96.8
2. Kurt Warner (1999-05) - 94.1
3. Peyton Manning (1998-05) - 93.5
4. Joe Montana (1979-94) - 92.3
5. Daunte Culpepper (1999-05) - 91.5

SINGLE-SEASON PASSER RATING
1. Peyton Manning, Ind. (2004) - 121.1
2. Steve Young, S.F. (1994) - 112.8
3. Joe Montana, S.F. (1989) - 112.4
4. Daunte Culpepper, Minn. (2004) - 110.9
5. Milt Plum, Cleve. (1960) - 110.4

I know I'm a little late joining in, but better late than never.

I'm not happy with this move.  Since Miami gave up a second round pick, I think it's safe to assume that this isn't a short term solution and the plan is to have Culpepper as the Dolphin QB for a number of years. 

There's some great analysis already in the thread, so I'm not going to rehash the pro's and con's; but I so want to say that my negative opinion of Culpepper is based on his performance last year before the injury and the dramatic improvement the Vikings made when he was gone.  I know his career numbers are good, but I can't ignore his horrific 2005 season.  It's also my perception that he makes a lot of mistakes with the ball, both interceptions and fumbles. 

Now that he's here, I hope for the best. 

Amen, brother.  A QB with a bad wheel is way better than one with a busted arm.  Culpepper's put up great numbers on teams with no defense, no running back, and ONE receiver / playmaker.  (Well, two in his first few years, when Chris Carter was still around).

On this team, with 2 very good receivers, and excellent tight end, and (hopefully) two stud backs...not to mention a filthy defense...this year could be very excititing.  When's training camp start again?  I'm psyched!   

did you hear that he restructured and saves us around 5 million in cap space.

Is Daunte our first black QB? Just wondering

Nope.  That honor goes to Ray Lucas who took our 2002 season and single-handedly flushed it completely down the toilet. 

     I was looking at our 2006 schedule just awhile ago, and I noticed that we play Minnesota at home.  How cool is that gonna be for Daunte?

Phins 31
Vikings 14