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ProFootballTalk.com hears QB Daunte Culpepper may miss most of 2006.
Rehabbing from knee surgery after tearing his ACL, PCL, and MCL last season, Culpepper initially felt he'd be ready for the start of the upcoming campaign. However, there have been recent reports he won't be able to play at all this year. The Dolphins have pursued Joey Harrington and Tommy Maddox as insurance policies and currently have only Cleo Lemon and Brock Berlin, who's in NFL Europe, on the active roster. Apr. 12 - 12:25 pm et
Source: ProFootballTalk.com

This would tank our season completely. The only bright spot would be having another year for the rookies to develop and we were get a better draft pick.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA. ...oh man this is epic... :D

Edge please tell me that you do not take that site seriously. That site is such bullshit that you need a pair of rubber boots just to look at it.

yeah i cant stand that site.....its pure lies, they're never right on anything

Edge, thanks for the post, but as others have said, PFT always takes every report one step further (and often blatantly makes stuff up just to drum up traffic).

This is the same site that reported that the Dolphins were changing their team logo to match that of the stadium.

::)

Culpepper mentioned yesterday that he may not be ready for week 1, but no where reputable has it mentioned that he's "out for the season" (which hasn't even started yet, by the way)

I've said this all along and I've seen both Culpepper and his agent quoted as saying as much. Leading up to the trade, though, the rhetoric coming out of the Culpepper camp was remarkably more upbeat (as it has been since then).

FWIW, though I have my doubts that Culpepper will be ready for week 1, I now think he's going to be fine this season. The reason for my flip-flop (and the sole reason) is a comment to that effect from Will Carrol, injury analyst at footballoutsiders.com. I've pimped the site before (not quite as often as Tommy has professed his love of all things Bob Flanders, but more than once) and not without reason. Carrol had the best injury analysis of anything available (that I saw) last season, was repeatedly right on the money (even when all public comments from the team or player in question were way off). That he's won awards as a baseball columnist lends further credibility to his name, although not stricktly relevant.

fyo, I'm curious to know what Will Carrol had to say about Brees... ?

I asked in a private email what he thought of Culpepper and Brees, respectively and he said that "Culpepper should be ok" and that (I'll paraphrase, the original was more strongly worded) "Brees is already throwing and even a team like the Saints had to know he was ok before signing him".

He also added: "Odds on returning to "elite" status? Culpepper - 60%, Brees - 80%".

He hasn't done an offseason injury article, but said (same email) that he might do so around the time of the draft.

awesome.  thanks! ;)

I should note that the email from Carroll was from two weeks ago. I.e. before the most recent Culpepper rumors.

Edge.  PFT is not a credible site for football facts.  I don't believe this for a second.

I would be very happy if this turns out to be false, but just reading it instills a fear into you that cannot be undone until I see Daunte in a game. Preferably this year.

Saban has said to the media that he was on the field taking snaps and doing drops weeks ago.  If he doesn't play this season, he's the slowest rehabber ever.

I dont buy this one to be honest.

Over here (as im sure you know) the main sport is soccer. And Knee Ligament tears/strains/breaks are more common than they would be in the NFL, given the studded/blades footwear thats worn during play, which plant standing feet in the grass during tackles - therefore all pressure is released on the knee causing more frequent injuries like this.

Now, in Soccer if you're the kind of player that relies on pace (like a striker/winger) your future play will be hampered because of this injury like an ACL/MCL Tear - you will be slightly slower and less agile, and "lose a yard of pace" as they say.

If Culpepper was a Tailback, he could kiss his career Goodbye, but that fact that he relies on his arm more than his pace is a positive. But again, if he never recovers from this injury psychologically, he'll be half the player he was.

Half of Culpepper is still better than any QB we've had since Marino. 

     I've seen nothing in any other major newspaper that even comes remotely close to validating this article.  From what I've seen, Culpepper could be back by late mid-season worst case scenario.

I'm not expcting fireworks out of Culpepper,it's his right knee...He's a right handed QB.This is his plant Leg the one that he pushes off with...when he takes his drop,he pushes off with his right leg.If he doesn't trust that knee,his it will affect his Accuracy,and strength on his throws.From the videos of Daunte throwing (in miami)he's just standing there throwing.

the test for his knee is not walking or running,it's lateral movement.the movements he doesn't use everyday.

For some reason,I always thought it was his left knee,until about 2 weeks ago.Being it's Right knee,I don't see him being the opening day starter.As for out for the season,I'm damn near 99.995% positive he'll play this year. (As it is right now,no reinjures,set backs )

Oh geez ... here we go again.  *sigh*


Right.  It's not the ProFootballValidatedNewsSite.  It's a "RUMOR MILL!"  They heard a rumor and they passed it on.

Anyone else experiencing deja vu?

On April 1st?

Their archives are all posted - humor me and find this "report". 

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This is all analagous to liberal complaints about Bush.  Here's a president spending like a drunken sailor and all they can complain about is that Bush "lied" about WMDs.  If being wrong makes someone a liar then almost everyone who posts on any of the prediction threads in here is a liar.

Great info!

Have any All-Pro caliber QBs in the past blown out their knees and come back? 

How does Brees' injury compare to Pennington's?  Was Pennington's just a fluke or an indication of what Brees' future may hold? 

OK...


Now, you may say "they're just posing the question..." but guess how everyone on this board who read it understood that?  Yeah, its written very sketch-ily, in order to drum up more rumors. ::)

As much as I think PFT is crap, they did not report that the Dolphins were changing their logo.  They said something along the lines of:

"Are we to believe that the Dolphins will be updating their logo?"
or
"Who knows if the Dolphins will follow and change their ugly logo?"

...somthing like that.  ...but they most certainly did not make a statement that such was fact.

Run to win, do you think we can have a thread about football without bringing up Bush?

Please see above - I realize that they posed it as a question.  But go look at how the public read it.  That's a stupid thing to even bring up, and it was written in a way that someone could take it as "oh my god, they're changing their logo to that?"

A news reporting source shouldn't be speculating, rather than reporting the news.  Clearly, PFT isn't a news reporting source.

That's my point.

There's a good German quote that I think fits this report from PFT...

"Nicht die Kinder bloß speist man mit Märchen ab."

Translation..."It isn't just children who are fed fairy tales."

Sure... if the analogys weren't so perfect.

Sooooo, rather than appropriately label the people who misunderstood the comment or can't grasp the concept of rumor mill, we'll just label the comment a lie?

So everytime one of your comments goes over someone's head, you're a liar - or does this only apply to other sites?

And it would be a great point if the site wasn't called a rumor mill. 

It they called the site "ProFootballTalk.com/News" and then speculated I'd be as outraged as the rest of you.

There's actually a subtle distiction between "abspeisen" and "feed", in that abspeisen also means to feed (=give) someone something so that they shut up / stop complaining ("fob somebody off with something", although that term is hardly modern US vernacular).

Actually they refer to the site as the "best pro football scoop on the internet". Scoop by definition is an exclusive NEWS story acquired by luck or initiative. So indeed they are referring to themselves as a news source.

Good call on the verbiage, but I think the meaning behind the phrase fits this almost perfectly.

...and for those of us who spent significant time stationed at RAF bases in the UK, the term "fob off" is perfectly clear.   ;)

I don't want to argue with dictionary.com, but I always thought a scoop was the tidbit of information that led to an exclusive story. 

I always considered a "scoop" to be a tidbit of unique information...but "factual" information. If they had an insider in Daunte's doctor's office during his rehab...THAT would be a scoop. If it's just a guy speculating what could happen, that's not as much a scoop as it is...well, speculation.

I believe a scoop is an actual news release; that is, a tidbit of info doesn't become a "scoop" until you release news based on it.

For example, if FOX obtained info today on Ricky's hearing (but didn't release any news about it, for whatever reason), and ESPN obtained the same info tomorrow (and released it the same day), ESPN got the "scoop," even though FOX had the info first.

Take a look at the web address:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

They claim to be a rumor mill. I check them out quite a bit, but usually its just for the links which they post to news stories from other NFL cities. Same reason I check out www.4for4.com

That is incorrect.  They just recently reported Leinart was about to fire Leigh Steinberg.  Steinberg replied their relationship would be a long one.


Of course it lasted only a few more days.

Lets also remember that you are reading it in a section called "Rumor Mill"

All rumors do not become truths, but that does not mean they were not out there.

As I posted on another site. 

Had Miami signed Brees & not traded for Culpepper, a thread like this would be "Glad we did not trade for this broken down bum"

Its only because its Miami.

No they didn't.  People need to remember that these guys are smartarses & sometime make fun of things.

Probably because no one has said it will be out.  PFT reported that they are hearing concerns that he might.

Thank you RTW.    It seems like some forget is a rumor mill section.  Not the gospel section.

The reason their is speculation out there is because prior to the trade Culpepper said he would be ready.  Now he backed off that comment.

The media being the media runs with things & are not wondering if his injury is not healing right.  Something Miami would not want out until they have found a QB that can play this season.

No, one would not say they are just posing a question.  They are.

No where do they say the Phins will be changing their logo to that one & if anyone read it that way, then a class in Reading Comprehension 101 is something to check into.

They were simply making fun of the Phins cartoonish helmet logo.

No they are not a ESPN.  That is why they have a rumor mill section.

None of those sites would ever report something heard over the grapevine.   They would want to make sure the story is true & then charge you for it on their inside ESPN.

Do we really need five posts back to back by one person to make the same point?

Why did we have the same point being made by 5 times by the same person?
(Sorry, Lil'B...Couldnt resist. ;D )

The only scoops I care about come from an ice-cream shop.

:'( Do we really need someone whining about another posting on a message board?  If you do not want to read it, then don't.

No need to make a post crying about it.

Oh, the irony.

Yeap, but I'm replying to him.  Not whining about someone making post on the subject in the thread.

(in my Best Carlos Mencia voice)
no matter how intelligent,or good the point is....if it you can't figure out how to use the message board to put it in 1  or 2 posts max.....then your just the DEE, DEE, DEE STU-PED!!!!!!

Again half of the threads in this thread...have nothing to do with Daunte Culpepper...just giving profootballtalk more credit than it deserves......

   
Different posters, different reply. 

Like I said.  If you do not like it then simply do not read it.

Not that hard of a concept to grasp.   

All MB come with scroll bars, back buttons & other features that make skipping a post easy.

Who said anything about reading your posts...I just saw 5 posts by the same person...and thought what a dumb f&*k.....


So then you're just a dumb F&*k then.....Oops...I should have made a seperate post ...maybe he'd understand it....

   They say there is someone for everyone, you cannot have day without night, good without evil and there is a first time for everything,   :D

If it you can't & he'd.

I guess NASA will be looking for that scientist elsewhere.   ;D

NASA doesn't like Rednecks like me...We've seen the movie...Dr.strangelove...and we think we can ride the Rockets,like Slim Pickens rode the bomb in the movie.....

I'm locking this thread, because it has gone way off topic. Don't like it? Tough.

Good mod, here's your doughnut.