McCain: "..the economy has hurt us a little bit..."

[run_to_win]

I hear this a lot, but I don't really agree.  I don't think you can fix any problem unless you understand the causes of it.  Also, I think it's important to hold the appropriate parties responsible, so that we don't continue to elect the same kind of thinking.

Yet the majority of us are going to vote Democrat or Republican.

[bsmooth]

Yet the majority of us are going to vote Democrat or Republican.

That is because too many of you either vote out of blind allegiance to an out of touch party, or because you hate the one party so much you will vote for whom ever their rival nominates. It is more than time for the people to bring a third party into the mix to shake up the established order of greed, vice, and corruption.

[run_to_win]

That is because too many of you either vote out of blind allegiance to an out of touch party, or because you hate the one party so much you will vote for whom ever their rival nominates. It is more than time for the people to bring a third party into the mix to shake up the established order of greed, vice, and corruption.

Damn you!  Now you're just baiting me to be sophomoric!!!    

[Dave Gray]

That is because too many of you either vote out of blind allegiance to an out of touch party, or because you hate the one party so much you will vote for whom ever their rival nominates. It is more than time for the people to bring a third party into the mix to shake up the established order of greed, vice, and corruption.

I don't think you'll find too many of us on here that will disagree with you, on either side.  However, the problem lies with the voting system.  If we had some kind of tiered voting that allowed people to vote, without the fear of throwing your vote away, it would be beneficial to all of us.

[bsmooth]

I don't think you'll find too many of us on here that will disagree with you, on either side.  However, the problem lies with the voting system.  If we had some kind of tiered voting that allowed people to vote, without the fear of throwing your vote away, it would be beneficial to all of us.

That is the misconception people have. If everyone stopped worrying about "throwing away" their vote by casting it to a third or fourth party candidate, viola we would have a third party. Both of the major parties keep this myth of a wasted vote alive because they fear a third party eating into their power.

[Dave Gray]

That is the misconception people have. If everyone stopped worrying about "throwing away" their vote by casting it to a third or fourth party candidate, viola we would have a third party. Both of the major parties keep this myth of a wasted vote alive because they fear a third party eating into their power.

That's like getting through a traffic jam by hoping everyone just hits the gas all at the same time.  It doesn't work like that.

You're right, but it will never happen.

The only way to introduce a legitimate third party is change how voting works.  Otherwise, we'll be in a cycle -- some will vote for a 3rd party and it will cost a major candidate, and it won't happen anymore.

You don't see a bunch of Nader voters going for Nader anymore.  So, people will try it once or twice and then they'll be done with it.

[bsmooth]

That's like getting through a traffic jam by hoping everyone just hits the gas all at the same time.  It doesn't work like that.

You're right, but it will never happen.

The only way to introduce a legitimate third party is change how voting works.  Otherwise, we'll be in a cycle -- some will vote for a 3rd party and it will cost a major candidate, and it won't happen anymore.

You don't see a bunch of Nader voters going for Nader anymore.  So, people will try it once or twice and then they'll be done with it.

You are right that it may never happen,  but I will keep trying. I can at least say I tried in my own little way to make a difference.