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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2011, 11:09:04 am »

He's misrepresenting my point.

I think that we are competitive, and that's kinda the problem.  The potential that we have is keeping us from looking at our biggest issues.  We're not making widespread changes.  It's masking our ability to really address things.

But, we're better than many of us want to believe.  There are teams in the lead with better records that I believe we're actually better than.  It speaks to our ineptitude at management, that we're losing games that we should be winning.  It also speaks to our lack of trustworthy superstars, since our key positions aren't stepping up in win/lose situations.


Coaching, and Front Office will fix this.  Bill Parcells's staff needs to be shown the door.
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2011, 11:37:58 am »

Bill Parcells is another great example.  Let's look at coaching.

Everyone wanted Jimmy Johnson.  We got him.  He wasn't good enough, everyone wanted him fired.

After Wanny, everyone wanted Nick Saban.  We went and got him.  The top coaching prospect.  He sucked.
Everyone wanted Cam Cameron - the top coaching prospect.  We went and got him.  He sucked.
Everyone wanted Bill Parcells.  The legend!  Super Bowls!  We went and got him.  Now, "Bill Parcells' staff needs to be shown the door."

Next up - we go get Bill Cowher cause everyone wants him, and when he sucks then what?  All these coaches magically suck?  Or maybe - just maybe - there's some poison on the team somewhere.
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 12:14:23 pm »

^^ probably.  I have a theory that the Dolphins are due to suck until someone else goes undefeated.  Cursed if you will..
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 12:26:00 pm »

Bill Parcells is another great example.  Let's look at coaching.

Everyone wanted Jimmy Johnson.  We got him.  He wasn't good enough, everyone wanted him fired.

After Wanny, everyone wanted Nick Saban.  We went and got him.  The top coaching prospect.  He sucked.
Everyone wanted Cam Cameron - the top coaching prospect.  We went and got him.  He sucked.
Everyone wanted Bill Parcells.  The legend!  Super Bowls!  We went and got him.  Now, "Bill Parcells' staff needs to be shown the door."

Next up - we go get Bill Cowher cause everyone wants him, and when he sucks then what?  All these coaches magically suck?  Or maybe - just maybe - there's some poison on the team somewhere.

I myself would LOVE to see Tony Dungy get the job!
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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 01:09:36 pm »

Bill Parcells is another great example.  Let's look at coaching.

Everyone wanted Jimmy Johnson.  We got him.  He wasn't good enough, everyone wanted him fired.

After Wanny, everyone wanted Nick Saban.  We went and got him.  The top coaching prospect.  He sucked.
Everyone wanted Cam Cameron - the top coaching prospect.  We went and got him.  He sucked.
Everyone wanted Bill Parcells.  The legend!  Super Bowls!  We went and got him.  Now, "Bill Parcells' staff needs to be shown the door."

Next up - we go get Bill Cowher cause everyone wants him, and when he sucks then what?  All these coaches magically suck?  Or maybe - just maybe - there's some poison on the team somewhere.

IMO We need to quit hiring "Regimes",giving full power away.....It's clear our owner is pretty football stupid.....He needs to hire someone that he trusts,and tell them what type of team he wants....That persons job is to report to Ross,He hires and fires the GM,and Coach,he's the man in charge of giving what Ross wants.Those are the only personnel decisions this person should have power to hire and fire.No Drafting,Free agent moves,No player decisions......This executive hires a GM,who hires the head coach he thinks can do it.The head coach builds his staff.....Define the roles...If the team's talent sucks,Fire the GM,if the team has more talent,but under performing fire the coach...This B.S. well who drafted this guy, and who wanted him,years later finding out who's decision it was is a crock...

I have to admit,Technically I've only wanted 2 of those guy's mentioned...I wanted Cam Cameron....I wanted Cowher,but that was before we hired Saban....(Back then there were rumors Cowher's job was on the line,and there were a few of us in the minority that wanted him) That was then...I don't want him now...

Hiring a Coach,that will pick his Gm,doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

That's just the way I see it...
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2011, 01:27:46 pm »

Why is this team poison for any player that wears the aqua jersey?
Coaching...or lack thereof.
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2011, 01:32:34 pm »

It's clear our owner is pretty football stupid.....He needs to hire someone that he trusts,and tell them what type of team he wants....

Ross has done exactly the right thing, IMHO, with the exception of the mishandling of the Harbough fuckup.

He's not getting involved in day-to-day operations. He has a GM (who is generally very well thought of around the league in terms of football smarts) and has let him do what a GM is supposed to do.

Once the season is over, Ross needs to decide if Ireland has failed at his job or if the fault lies with someone else (i.e. Sparano) and that the right move is to let Ireland stay and bring in a new head coach.

All this blaming the ownership is just a distraction. Ownership has hired top prospect after top prospect and let the football people make the football decisions. It hasn't worked out, but I'm not going to pin that on Ross.
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2011, 06:06:56 pm »



He's not getting involved in day-to-day operations. He has a GM (who is generally very well thought of around the league in terms of football smarts) and has let him do what a GM is supposed to do.



You missed last weeks ESPN piece on how Ross was the one who VETOED the Orton deal. lol. That seems kinda hands-on to me.

And the Miami Herald article where it came out that he put a spending limit on the the roster.
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2011, 12:24:02 am »

I myself would LOVE to see Tony Dungy get the job!

I would be ecstatic.
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2011, 08:51:41 am »

If Ross actually vetoed the Orton deal, then I would think more people would like him now for not wasting our draft picks.
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2011, 08:55:17 am »

I would be ecstatic.
I like Tony Dungy too much to want him to coach the Dolphins. It's kind of like not dating a girl you really like while in High School. You know you will screw it up so it's better to stay friends. 
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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2011, 05:04:25 pm »

You missed last weeks ESPN piece on how Ross was the one who VETOED the Orton deal. lol.

Apparently, yes. It is nice how you are always courteous when responding, though, and never snide.

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And the Miami Herald article where it came out that he put a spending limit on the the roster.

That was reported as a rumor and since Miami has used its cap space quite well, I call BS on it.
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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2011, 05:56:07 pm »

Miami didn't use up its cap space they are $9 mill under roughly. I have no idea what your talking about.
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« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2011, 06:41:11 pm »

Miami didn't use up its cap space they are $9 mill under roughly. I have no idea what your talking about.

Used *well*, not "to the max". (The latest numbers I saw had Miami $10M under, but whatever). It only makes sense for teams to be a bit under the cap at this point in the season. You never know when you might have to use some money on... say, a quarterback Wink. The rest of the cap can be used by extending contracts, but teams usually wait until fairly late in the season to do that, since they want to see players actually perform first.
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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2011, 08:49:06 pm »

lol, late in the season to extend contracts. Not really how it works.
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