FWIW: "Don't expect Miami Dolphins to take Ryan Tannehill"

[EKnight]

From the Palm Beach Post:
"And with the eighth pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select ...

Not Ryan Tannehill.

Yes, it's clear that Dolphins fans are desperate for a franchise quarterback. It has been almost three decades since Miami chose a passer in the first round (Dan Marino, 1983), and none of the current quarterbacks (Matt Moore, David Garrard and Pat Devlin) has captured the fans' imagination.
 
But The Palm Beach Post predicts that the Dolphins will extend their streak to 29 years.
 
Taking Tannehill, generally rated the third-best quarterback in the draft, might be tempting for General Manager Jeff Ireland. He knows as much about Tannehill as any GM because the Dolphins' new offensive coordinator, Mike Sherman, was Tannehill's head coach the last four years at Texas A&M.
 
Nevertheless, several factors point to Miami making a different choice April 26.
 
1) The Dolphins don't tend to overpay for players.

Most experts agree that Tannehill, while an athletic and accurate quarterback, isn't a top-10 talent but will be drafted higher than he should be because of the importance of his position.
 
"He's very raw," NFL Network's Mike Mayock said. "However, because the NFL is so overheated right now when it comes to finding franchise quarterbacks, I think the kid is probably going to go higher than he should."
 
The Dolphins certainly understand that, too, and they showed allegiance to their philosophy - assigning a value to a player and sticking with it - when they let free agent Matt Flynn sign with Seattle.
 
It's more likely that the Dolphins would take Tannehill if they traded down from the No. 8 slot and he was still available.
 
2) Taking Tannehill would take the Dolphins out of the quarterback market.

He might be a good player, but if the Dolphins take him eighth overall, they would be married to him for at least the next three seasons. That means they couldn't emulate the Redkins (who moved up to No. 2 so they can take Robert Griffin ) and make a run next year at USC's Matt Barkley, the front-runner to be the No. 1 pick and a perfect fit in the Dolphins' new West Coast Offense.
 
Even if Barkley is unavailable next year, new coach Joe Philbin probably would rather look further than settle for Tannehill.
 
3) The Dolphins could use an instant-impact player elsewhere.

Tannehill almost certainly would sit behind Moore and Garrard in 2012. That might not be the best situation for a team that needs to sell tickets and find a pass rusher, No. 1 receiver and defensive back. With the eighth pick, the Dolphins would have a chance to find a Pro Bowl-level player at a position other than quarterback.
 
Considering that receiver and cornerback offer good value in the second and third rounds this year, the Dolphins' first-round pick most likely will be a pass rusher.
 
"You can never have enough of them," Ireland said at the NFL Scouting Combine.

The Dolphins desperately need one to replace Jason Taylor and take pressure off Cameron Wake, and the eighth pick is the perfect opportunity to acquire an elite talent.
 
That player might be South Carolina's Melvin Ingram, a disruptive beast who played nose tackle, defensive end, 3-4 outside linebacker and middle linebacker last year. But Ingram could go seventh to Jacksonville.
 
The Dolphins then would take Quinton Coples, a physical freak from North Carolina who is often compared to Julius Peppers but might slide down to No. 8 because of questions about his effort during his senior season.
 
Coples, who stands 6-6 and 284 pounds, could be a perfect fit at end in Miami's new, 4-3 hybrid defense."

-EK
 

[Pappy13]

And here's why I think they are wrong.

1) The Dolphins don't tend to overpay for players.

Taking Tannehill at #8 isn't overpaying for him. There really isn't anyone in the draft that will be there at #8 that you can clearly say is better than Tannehill and they ABSOLUTELY should take him instead of Tannehill. That's what I tried to put forth in the other thread I started. There were a few players offered forth and PERHAPS they are better value than Tannehill, but it's definately not clear.  What is wrong with taking the best value when you pick? Nothing. Trading away a couple firsts to get him would be overpaying and I'm not suggesting they do that but taking him at #8 is NOT overpaying for him.

2) Taking Tannehill would take the Dolphins out of the quarterback market.

Bullshit. Miami has 2 QB's on the roster now that could EASILY be gone next year. You could take Tannehill this year and still take Barkley next year if it happened to fall that way. You don't have to pay 1st round rookie QB's a 50 million signing bonus anymore. There's absolutely NO reason that you couldn't take a first round QB again next year and let them both compete for the starting spot. Once one becomes the clear favorite, if the other has any value you can try to trade him and maybe get back a 3rd or 4th round pick. Besides, I highly doubt that Miami is gonna have much a chance at Barkley anyway. He'll probably be snatched up within the first 3 or 4 picks if not sooner. If Miami ends up being one of the first 4 picks in next year's draft they have MUCH bigger problems to contend with than worrying about taking 2 first round QB's in back to back years.

3) The Dolphins could use an instant-impact player elsewhere.

Duh. But it's not like they are one player away from making a superbowl run, so there's no real urgency either. You just brought in a new head coach and a whole new coaching staff. It's probably going to take at least 1 year for them to find out what they have on their roster and tweak it to their liking. Besides I really don't see any sure-fire instant impact players at #8. It's highly doubtful that picking something other than QB will make much of an impact next year regardless of who they choose. Really the only thing they could choose to make a HUGE impact next year would BE a QB. This is REALLY reaching.

[Fins4ever]

From the Palm Beach Post:
"And with the eighth pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select ...

Not Ryan Tannehill.

Yes, it's clear that Dolphins fans are desperate for a franchise quarterback. It has been almost three decades since Miami chose a passer in the first round (Dan Marino, 1983), and none of the current quarterbacks (Matt Moore, David Garrard and Pat Devlin) has captured the fans' imagination.
 
But The Palm Beach Post predicts that the Dolphins will extend their streak to 29 years.
 
Taking Tannehill, generally rated the third-best quarterback in the draft, might be tempting for General Manager Jeff Ireland. He knows as much about Tannehill as any GM because the Dolphins' new offensive coordinator, Mike Sherman, was Tannehill's head coach the last four years at Texas A&M.
 
Nevertheless, several factors point to Miami making a different choice April 26.
 
1) The Dolphins don't tend to overpay for players.

Most experts agree that Tannehill, while an athletic and accurate quarterback, isn't a top-10 talent but will be drafted higher than he should be because of the importance of his position.
 
"He's very raw," NFL Network's Mike Mayock said. "However, because the NFL is so overheated right now when it comes to finding franchise quarterbacks, I think the kid is probably going to go higher than he should."
 
The Dolphins certainly understand that, too, and they showed allegiance to their philosophy - assigning a value to a player and sticking with it - when they let free agent Matt Flynn sign with Seattle.
 
It's more likely that the Dolphins would take Tannehill if they traded down from the No. 8 slot and he was still available.
 
2) Taking Tannehill would take the Dolphins out of the quarterback market.

He might be a good player, but if the Dolphins take him eighth overall, they would be married to him for at least the next three seasons. That means they couldn't emulate the Redkins (who moved up to No. 2 so they can take Robert Griffin ) and make a run next year at USC's Matt Barkley, the front-runner to be the No. 1 pick and a perfect fit in the Dolphins' new West Coast Offense.
 
Even if Barkley is unavailable next year, new coach Joe Philbin probably would rather look further than settle for Tannehill.
 
3) The Dolphins could use an instant-impact player elsewhere.

Tannehill almost certainly would sit behind Moore and Garrard in 2012. That might not be the best situation for a team that needs to sell tickets and find a pass rusher, No. 1 receiver and defensive back. With the eighth pick, the Dolphins would have a chance to find a Pro Bowl-level player at a position other than quarterback.
 
Considering that receiver and cornerback offer good value in the second and third rounds this year, the Dolphins' first-round pick most likely will be a pass rusher.
 
"You can never have enough of them," Ireland said at the NFL Scouting Combine.

The Dolphins desperately need one to replace Jason Taylor and take pressure off Cameron Wake, and the eighth pick is the perfect opportunity to acquire an elite talent.
 
That player might be South Carolina's Melvin Ingram, a disruptive beast who played nose tackle, defensive end, 3-4 outside linebacker and middle linebacker last year. But Ingram could go seventh to Jacksonville.
 
The Dolphins then would take Quinton Coples, a physical freak from North Carolina who is often compared to Julius Peppers but might slide down to No. 8 because of questions about his effort during his senior season.
 
Coples, who stands 6-6 and 284 pounds, could be a perfect fit at end in Miami's new, 4-3 hybrid defense."

-EK
 

Coples has no heart. Please GOD NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Respectfully disagree with your argument about paying RT.

1. Unless they move down, someone is going to get #8 money. Why not a possible franchise QB.

2. I for 1 want them to be out of the QB market. That is a good thing!

3. It is a passing league. No one has more impact than a QB. 

As far as what Ireland said, you know what you can't have enough of? FRANCHISE QUATERBACKS!!!!

Sorry to disagree, but you know I am right. You are welcome in advance! lol