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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2012, 02:15:54 pm »

I heard an interesting point of view about PBS being pretty much the only place for poor people to get early childhood development -- without it, you severely affect kids' ability to grow up smart and educated.  They don't have Disney channel and Nickelodeon.

So, though we all pay for it, it saves money and it's making fewer people who are going to be breaking into your car in 20 years.

That's just plain silly. I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of inmates that watched big bird. Maybe their parents should be responsible adults and raise their kids correctly. Everyone has excuses these days but no responsibility for their own actions. Boo effin hoo, the poor victims of circumstance...........
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2012, 02:26:16 pm »

  It's their company, it is their responsibility to inform the employees that there may be layoffs in certain circumstances.

I have never worked for a company that made official announcements of possible layoffs. If anything, they said the exact opposite and then did it anyway. These companies who did this do not give a shit about the employees. You know why, because any self respecting employee who hears about layoffs would start putting their foot in the water to find another job. This is a vote for my guy or else tactic.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2012, 02:27:05 pm »

I have never worked for a company that made official announcements of possible layoffs. If anything, they said the exact opposite and then did it anyway. These companies who did this do not give a shit about the employees. You know why, because any self respecting employee who hears about layoffs would start putting their foot in the water to find another job. This is a vote for my guy or else tactic.

Or else what ?
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2012, 02:30:50 pm »

Or else what ?


I started to be real snarky here but held back. We all know that there is no way of knowing who voted for who unless they specifically come out and say so, have bumper stickers, etc. So the threat is maybe not you specifically vote for my guy or else, but the message is my guy needs votes or collectively all of you are under the gun.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2012, 02:32:04 pm »

I started to be real snarky here but held back. We all know that there is no way of knowing who voted for who unless they specifically come out and say so, have bumper stickers, etc. So the threat is maybe not you specifically vote for my guy or else, but the message is my guy needs votes or collectively all of you are under the gun.

Yes that is the message. AND Huh
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2012, 02:35:10 pm »

I'm torn actually and don't really see a definite right answer. I see how it can be misconstrued as bullying or even abused but I also think people have a right to know that if "A" happens, then "B" will happen ... assuming that is in fact true. The problem lies when "A" happens and and then "B" never happens. It then becomes a scare tactic and that isn't cool.

I can say that I believe that some companies have one plan if Obama is elected and another if Romney is elected based on a couple of issues. If people are let go then I would think they will have wished they had of known earlier but don't know that that is even in the best interest of the company itself.
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2012, 02:37:22 pm »

I have never worked for a company that made official announcements of possible layoffs. If anything, they said the exact opposite and then did it anyway. These companies who did this do not give a shit about the employees. You know why, because any self respecting employee who hears about layoffs would start putting their foot in the water to find another job. This is a vote for my guy or else tactic.
We knew at the county that they were laying off prior to it happening. We even knew how many per department as we watched the meetings. We just didn't know who.
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2012, 02:40:49 pm »

Then explain why Obama was elected, Obamacare passed, is upheld by the Supreme Court, and you still have the same employer telling you if Obama is elected, then you will lose your job.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2012, 02:42:36 pm »

Just for giggles, are you guys aware the David Siegel, the man who I was first aware of sending these e-mails, has stated that in past elections he polled his workers on who they supported prior to the election?
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2012, 02:44:24 pm »

Just for giggles, are you guys aware the David Siegel, the man who I was first aware of sending these e-mails, has stated that in past elections he polled his workers on who they supported prior to the election?
There are many negatives things you can say about him. I don't think anyone is defending him as being a good person are they?
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2012, 02:46:53 pm »

^^^ No, but they are defending his message as being straightforward and I think this is a good example of why it may not be.
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2012, 03:38:12 pm »

There are other people who have done the same thing. Most notably the Koch brothers who sent it out to over 45,000 employees. 
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2012, 05:26:34 pm »

CF, you misunderstand.  David Siegel openly brags about being "the man who got George W. Bush elected."  He sent out surveys to thousands of employees, found out which ones intended to vote for Bush, then insisted that those employees register to vote.

This isn't hypothetical "If this guy gets elected then we might downsize" tripe.  This is in an entirely different league.
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