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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2012, 04:22:47 pm »

Brian, by your own analysis, Nolan Carroll's horrible play led to 3 points... in a game MIA lost by 5.

The problem was the offense, not the defense.

You mention that "every time you heard his name, he was getting flagged."  You don't hear the name of an OLineman when the opposing D makes a tackle in the backfield.  You don't hear the name of an RB when he fails to make someone miss or break a tackle.  You don't hear the name of the offensive coordinator when his schemes are unable to create running lanes.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2012, 05:17:00 pm »

You don't think the game is a bit different in the end if they need a FG to win instead of a TD?

I don't dispute that the offense was inept.  I agree.  Has been for almost 3 games now.  But I feel that its more in your own control to NOT commit dumbass penalties (especially after being flagged previously) than it is to be "better on offense" - there's a component of opposing-defensive play that makes that tougher.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2012, 08:14:40 pm »

In some ways it's easier to give the SotG to Carroll because he stood out on defense, playing head and shoulders worse that anybody else. On offense, the blame was spread over pretty much everyone.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2012, 09:30:29 pm »

I don't dispute that the offense was inept.  I agree.  Has been for almost 3 games now.  But I feel that its more in your own control to NOT commit dumbass penalties (especially after being flagged previously) than it is to be "better on offense" - there's a component of opposing-defensive play that makes that tougher.
The OLinemen let the defenders simply run by them, and it's "great play by the Bills' defense."
If Carroll does the same, he's bashed as the primary reason we lost.

It's not like Carroll was being called for off-sides or 12-men.  His penalties potentially prevented TDs.  Now, he should still be criticized for getting beat by his man and putting himself in a position to need to commit penalties... but at the end of the day, his penalties resulted in 3 points.

The offense was lined up against the worst run defenders in the league and they did nothing.  That's totally inexcusable.  Just because they avoided making obvious blunders, that doesn't absolve them of blame.  If you commit zero penalties and zero turnovers but lose a game 9-6, that loss is not on your defense.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2012, 10:06:03 pm »

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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2012, 04:53:12 pm »

Reggie Bush.
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