Rooting against your own team?

[Dave Gray]

I think that, in very limited cases, #3 is legitimate.  I feel that Jet fans should've rooted against Tebow.  His success meant that they were going to be in toilet for a long time.  The faster he sucked and got canned, the better off they were going to be.

Of course, I made this point in the pre-season, but the idea is much the same.

[Spider-Dan]

Similarly, at what point should a Chargers fan be "allowed" to root for Norv Turner to get fired?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I think that, in very limited cases, #3 is legitimate.  I feel that Jet fans should've rooted against Tebow.  His success meant that they were going to be in toilet for a long time.  The faster he sucked and got canned, the better off they were going to be.

Of course, I made this point in the pre-season, but the idea is much the same.

I don't buy that.  The best case scenario for the Jets was not Tebow being cut, but developing into a great passer.

[Dave Gray]

^ Right, of course.  But if you're like me, and you recognized early that Tebow was never going to be a good passer, you're better to cut bait.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Similarly, at what point should a Chargers fan be "allowed" to root for Norv Turner to get fired?

Never.  Chargers fans should be rooting for Norv to be hoisting a Lombardi on February 2, 2014.  

Let me ask you a question:

Would a NEP fan been justified in rooting for the quick demise of Bill Belichick after his 5-13 start, having previously being fired from Cleveland with a 36-44 record going into a game against the Colts with a 6th-round-pick backup QB, figuring having him go 0-16 would mean a new coach rather than have him eek a meager enough recovery to keep his job for another year?

[Guru-In-Vegas]

I'm missing something...

Why would Chargers fans want Norv Turner holding up the Lombardi trophy?  He's the O coordinator for the Browns ( or something ) nowadays.

[Brian Fein]

Would a NEP fan been justified in rooting for the quick demise of Bill Belichick after his 5-13 start, having previously being fired from Cleveland with a 36-44 record going into a game against the Colts with a 6th-round-pick backup QB, figuring having him go 0-16 would mean a new coach rather than have him eek a meager enough recovery to keep his job for another year?

This is the definition of many Dolphins' fans. No Super Bowl in the first 2 seasons means you get fired and the team starts all over.

[Pappy13]

Never.  Chargers fans should be rooting for Norv to be hoisting a Lombardi on February 2, 2014.  

I think we are talking about 2 different things here. It's one thing to root for a guy/team to do well and it's another to completely ignore the situation.  I always WANT the Dolphins to win, but if it's week 17 and there's absolutely NOTHING to be gained from a win whereas a loss may help your draft position or some other circumstance I think it's acceptable to accept a loss as a positive outcome.

[Spider-Dan]

Never.  Chargers fans should have been rooting for Norv to be hoisting a Lombardi on February 3, 2013.

 
Fixed that for you, but I knew what you meant.

Let me ask you a question:

Would a NEP fan been justified in rooting for the quick demise of Bill Belichick after his 5-13 start, having previously being fired from Cleveland with a 36-44 record going into a game against the Colts with a 6th-round-pick backup QB, figuring having him go 0-16 would mean a new coach rather than have him eek a meager enough recovery to keep his job for another year?

After one year as the coach in NE?  I'd say no.

Now let me ask you this:

Should a MIN fan have been rooting for their team to lose in week 16 of 2011, knowing that a #1 or #2 draft pick would have either resulted in a highly-touted QB or an incredible windfall of draft picks?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Should a MIN fan have been rooting for their team to lose in week 16 of 2011, knowing that a #1 or #2 draft pick would have either resulted in a highly-touted QB or an incredible windfall of draft picks?

Nope, a team isn't made up of one rookie.

I would rather have 53 MEN that still have enough pride to put on a winning effort even after being eliminated from the playoffs and are showing improvement than a better draft position. 

[Spider-Dan]

But STL didn't get "one rookie" from the RG3 trade.  DAL also got more than "one rookie" in the Herschel Walker trade and it seemed to be significant.

I already asked this question: should fans have wanted Shanahan to keep RG3 in the playoff game last year?  When Jake Long was first injured in 2010, a lot of fans thought Sparano should hold him out and make sure their prized LT makes a full recovery, even if it means a loss.  Are these people also not "true fans"?

How far does this "win today, screw tomorrow" mentality extend?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I already asked this question: should fans have wanted Shanahan to keep RG3 in the playoff game last year? 

Entirely different issue.  Rooting for your team to lose vs. protecting an injured player.

[Spider-Dan]

Both are cases of "I want the team to win the game today, no matter how it impacts the future."

If that's the definition of a True Fan, then count me out.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Both are cases of "I want the team to win the game today, no matter how it impacts the future."

If that's the definition of a True Fan, then count me out.

They are too totally different things. 

[Dolphster]

Interesting question.  The only time I ever even considered rooting against my favorite team was during the "suck for Luck" days.  But when push came to shove, on game day I just couldn't bring myself to want the Fins to lose.