Chip Kelly Canned

[Spider-Dan]

Yes. That makes sense. Just kidding.  Sparano had a healthy Chad Pennington for his only winning season. Sean Payton had Drew Brees. Chip Kelly had mark Sanchez nick foles and Sam Bradford. In a qb driven league he had nobody.

You say that as if Chad Pennington made a single Pro Bowl in his career.

More than that, give any coach a QB that throws 27 TDs and 2 INTs and they will do pretty well, so it's hard to lay the blame at the foot of poor QB play.

[Run Ricky Run]

You say that as if Chad Pennington made a single Pro Bowl in his career.

More than that, give any coach a QB that throws 27 TDs and 2 INTs and they will do pretty well, so it's hard to lay the blame at the foot of poor QB play.

Yes, Chip Kelly turned a shit QB hot for 10 games. How has he done in his other 25 NFL starts? Maybe you should go back to explaining how a coach who averages 1.3 more wins/season is "barely" better than a different coach.

[Spider-Dan]

Yes, Chip Kelly turned a shit QB hot for 10 games. How has he done in his other 25 NFL starts?

Foles' passer rating with the Eagles before Kelly arrived was 79.1.
His passer rating with the Eagles as a starter in 2014 (with Chip Kelly) was 81.4.
So I guess Kelly gets the credit for Foles' good games, but none of the blame for his bad ones?

To put this in perspective: how did Kelly's handpicked replacements for Foles do?

Maybe you should go back to explaining how a coach who averages 1.3 more wins/season is "barely" better than a different coach.

The casual observer might fail to notice that in order to arrive at that "1.3 more wins/season" number, you can't compare Kelly's first three seasons to Sparano's first three seasons (as we have been doing this whole thread); such a comparison would tell you that Kelly won 0.33 more games per season.  To come up with that number, you had to add in his last 4-9 season.

So again, as I just said: tell me why Chip Kelly after 3 years has been better than Tony Sparano after 3 years.  If your answer is, "He won an extra one-third of a game per season and his winning percentage was .032 better," you have made my argument for me.

I don't want another Tony Sparano but with one extra win every 3 years.

[Run Ricky Run]

What was Foles qb rating in St. Louis where he got benched?  and was your argument that Foles is a good qb or a bad qb.  You flip flop so much is it hard to tell.  And his handpicked qbs???  Who Mike Vick, Mark Sanchez.  It isn't like franchise QBs go in free agency every year.  Sam bradford is better than foles. 

Sparano was 25-23 with back to back losing seasons.  Kelly was 26-21 with one losing season and having a great college coaching career.  so his record was .5wins a season better than Sparano. 

It doesn't matter what team Kelly goes to, I bet they will have a better record than the Eagles next year.  TBH i don't even like Chip Kelly, but they eagles made a mistake getting rid of him.  WGAF what Demarco Murray says about him.  He is probably going to be out of the league in 2years. 

[Spider-Dan]

What was Foles qb rating in St. Louis where he got benched?

Chip Kelly wasn't coaching STL, so I'm not sure how that matters.  Nor did Chip Kelly handpick who stays and goes in St. Louis.

See, the major problem you can't avoid is that every single player on the Eagles in 2015 was on the team because Chip Kelly, and he alone, decided not to get rid of him.  When you're the one buying the groceries, you don't get to use your roster as an excuse for why you sucked.  Especially when your team was dramatically better when you weren't in control of the roster.

Sam bradford is better than foles.

Even if I agreed with that, Sam Bradford is clearly NOT better than Nick Foles + a second-round draft pick + $12 million of cap space... which is what Kelly gave up when he traded Foles for Bradford.

Sparano was 25-23 with back to back losing seasons.  Kelly was 26-21 with one losing season and having a great college coaching career.  so his record was .5wins a season better than Sparano.

Your math needs work.

26 wins - 25 wins = 1 win
Divide 1 win by three seasons and you get one-third of a win per season, not one-half.
But once more, the fact that you think that saying, "No!  Chip Kelly had an additional ONE-HALF WIN per season compared to Sparano!" counts as a solid rebuttal makes my argument for me.

Keep in mind that Sparano inherited a much worse team than Kelly did (and again, you're the one who brought up quality of inherited team as a significant factor).

Chip Kelly had a great college coaching career?  Then maybe he should go back to college.

[Run Ricky Run]

Yes. We can just ignore the one game chip doesn't get to coach Amirite. So 23 losses -21 losses is 2 so 2/3 is .66. Or we can take his winning percentage to get to .5. Nobody can turn a roster over in one year. Lol at ever player on the roster was there because of chip Kelly when he just took over personnel that year.