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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2006, 06:45:56 am »

From what I heard...If a new agreement,the cap would have been around 102-105 million dollars...With no agreement the Cap will be between 92 - 95 kmillion...that's why there will be more cuts....

Teams like the jets are right around the 102 million dollar mark...With no CBA agreement...They have to make some more cuts....

Does that help Run_to_win?
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2006, 01:25:41 pm »

"Experts" anticipate a boatload of addition cuts because of this.  Why?

Couldn't teams "Brian Griese" every top free-agent?  (Offer a low first year salary for the capped 2006 season and ridiculous 2nd year salary for the uncapped 2007 season)? 

Nope. The "30% rule" (actually 25% for non-veterans) prevents this. It states that a player's salary cannot increase more than 30% per year compared to the last uncapped year.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2006, 11:22:36 am »

uh-oh....the owners walked out on the emergency meeting session that was supposed to go all day today in NYC.......looks like the NFL as we know it is no more
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2006, 11:28:46 am »

I don't care about this.  The Wellington Mara family has a lot of money - we'll be a good team.

Bye-Bye Arizona Cardinals and New Orleans Saints.
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2006, 11:38:46 am »

I'm loving this news. The salary cap blows. Teams like arizona, new orleans, buffalo, still suck with or without a cap.

Jerry jones has deep pockets and isnt afraid to spend. I've been waiting for this day for about 6 years. Thank you upshaw for sticking to your guns. The NFL is a better league now.


Hey Danny Boy uncle sam has come to collect. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2006, 11:52:12 am »

The Patriots should still be fine because their owner isn't afraid to spend his own money. I hope Miami's owner is the same way.
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2006, 06:25:12 pm »

Some of you guys are forgetting that if an agreement isn't made on the CBA then a lockout is very likely so all you fans dreaming about endless spending for your teams can forget about it. The owners need to give the players their due because the players have the leverage whether they like it or not. No one is going to pay to see scab players. The NFL will not survive a hit like this if they don't strike a deal. The cap is a good thing - the reason teams like the Saints and Cardinals continue to suck is because they make bad moves --- but the Rams, Steelers, & Patriots are examples that the cap is a success. Those teams built thru drafts & made all the right offseason moves. A cap-less NFL would suck anyway - teams would try to buy championships instead of earn them.
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2006, 08:18:04 pm »

If the CBA goes away, you may as well call the NFL the NBA. Come out and see us get huge contracts for guarenteed money. Come out and see us bust our ass for the money in our free agency year. Come watch us play turtle once we have a hundred million dollar deal. (not our fault, must be the coach,org,league)
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2006, 01:08:55 pm »

Some of you guys are forgetting that if an agreement isn't made on the CBA then a lockout is very likely so all you fans dreaming about endless spending for your teams can forget about it. The owners need to give the players their due because the players have the leverage whether they like it or not. No one is going to pay to see scab players. The NFL will not survive a hit like this if they don't strike a deal. The cap is a good thing - the reason teams like the Saints and Cardinals continue to suck is because they make bad moves --- but the Rams, Steelers, & Patriots are examples that the cap is a success. Those teams built thru drafts & made all the right offseason moves. A cap-less NFL would suck anyway - teams would try to buy championships instead of earn them.



They're wont be any strike, because the players union has about 200 million dollars waiting for some johnny cochran type lawyer to fight the NFL& its owners if they try to lock them out. Why do you think the owners called the players association back to the bargaining table? Seems to me it's the owners who are blinking not the players. They're more than willing to go to an uncapped system because the owners will pay.


You're telling me teams like the giants, cowboys, and forty whiners 10- 15 years ago bought championships? T hey built them thru the draft, just like the pats, and steelers. No matter what system is put into place good drafting, scouting, and good personnel decisions are the blueprint for success.

I'm tired of wacthing dynasties being stripped apart. Why should a team who drafts well, and develops talent be raped by the system.


In addition the the quality of play stinks compared to 10 years ago. For instance this years super bowl was unwacthable. T eams are to dependent on young players at certain position's who arent ready, but are forced to play because of cap. Also what kind of league is it when one injury can damage the rest of your season. It's a total joke.


These low market teams need to stop crying wolf. What's bill bidwell doing to create new revenue streams? I'll tell you nothing. He rather sit on his ass and do nothing while jerry jones, and dan synder line his pockets. Arizona. minnesota are consistently under the cap.

Again no cap makes for a better product on the field, and for all who bitch about baseball being unbalanced, in the last 6 years they're have been 6 different world series champions, while in football they're has only been 3 different champions. So spending like GEORGE dosent gurantee you a title.
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2006, 06:31:45 pm »

You're telling me teams like the giants, cowboys, and forty whiners 10- 15 years ago bought championships?
Yes.

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T hey built them thru the draft, just like the pats, and steelers.
No, they combined solid drafting (a necessity) with over the top spending (see: Deion Sanders).

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In addition the the quality of play stinks compared to 10 years ago. For instance this years super bowl was unwacthable.
But 55-10, 52-17, 49-26 Super Bowls are watchable?

With 1-2 exceptions, salary-cap-era Super Bowls have been FAR more entertaining.  DEN-GB, STL-TEN, NE-STL, and NE-CAR were all instant classics.
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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2006, 07:28:31 pm »

Again no cap makes for a better product on the field, and for all who bitch about baseball being unbalanced, in the last 6 years they're have been 6 different world series champions, while in football they're has only been 3 different champions. So spending like GEORGE dosent gurantee you a title.

LOL cmon cowboys keep it real. I always respect your opinion cuz you try to keep things objective but your bias is painfully obvious here. OF COURSE a COWGIRLS fan will favor a cap-less system because they can TRY to return to the glory days of the DeBartolo/Jones annual pissing contest. No one wants to see that over again. The NFL has been on fire the last couple of years because of the cap - everyone has a chance - a real checks & balance system that works which is why football is the new American pasttime. Dynasties dont have to be torn apart - look at the Patriots, the Steelers also have many pieces still intact they could possibly run the table also - the teams that fail to keep it together do so because they make the wrong moves. Its alot easier to contend when you can just throw money around & stack up your team. Just like a game is easier when you pop in the gameshark & turn on all the cheats. Level the playing field though - & it isn't as easy is it? One thing I will agree with you about though is the CBA favoring owners who don't do as much for their teams - the teams always under cap. I don't think that is the system's fault - I think its bad ownership. And yes I will also agree that how the money is distributed among the owners should be reworked -- but none of this should affect the on-field product or the players salary cap.
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