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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2009, 11:09:44 am »
Food for thought......if we had a playoff we would still have arguments about what if so and so wasn't injured,etc.And college football would basically be like college basketball---the regular season would mean dick,only the tournament counts.Is the BCS flawed?Of course it is,but it is all we have.
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2009, 11:23:24 am »
Quote from: landlocked on January 04, 2009, 11:09:44 am
Food for thought......if we had a playoff we would still have arguments about what if so and so wasn't injured,etc.And college football would basically be like college basketball---the regular season would mean dick,only the tournament counts.Is the BCS flawed?Of course it is,but it is all we have.

Depends on how many teams get in. 

Reason why the regular season doesn't mean much in basketball is 65 teams get in.  If 8 teams got the regular season would be very important for basketball. 

Pro-football, pro- baseball all have playoffs do their season mean dick?  No. 

However, with pro-basketball and pro-hockey the regular season means dick because half the teams make the playoffs.   

That is why I support an 8 team football playoffs not a 32 team playoff. 

Keep in mind if you have an 8 team football playoffs it is going to be 0,1, or 2 loss teams only.  Not teams that went 6-6. 
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2009, 12:33:14 pm »
Even with an 8 team playoff,we would have argument.Example,suppose Florida is crushing everyone they play,they play their first playoff game and lose their starting QB and WR to injury,and maybe a defensive guy or two gets banged up.Then they get beat by Utah in a close game........
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2009, 12:50:07 pm »
Quote from: landlocked on January 04, 2009, 12:33:14 pm
Even with an 8 team playoff,we would have argument.Example,suppose Florida is crushing everyone they play,they play their first playoff game and lose their starting QB and WR to injury,and maybe a defensive guy or two gets banged up.Then they get beat by Utah in a close game........

Why would that mean crap? 

Or are you declaring the the NEP the AFCE div winner cause they lost their QB. 

If the Steelers lose next week because Big Ben is out does it invalidate the SB? 

If a player gets hurt in the playoffs and lose, that is part of the game. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2009, 01:54:07 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 04, 2009, 12:50:07 pm
Why would that mean crap? 

Or are you declaring the the NEP the AFCE div winner cause they lost their QB. 

If the Steelers lose next week because Big Ben is out does it invalidate the SB? 

If a player gets hurt in the playoffs and lose, that is part of the game. 

Too many acronyms, hoodie. I feel like I'm reading a SMS on my phone!

Landlocked: People will always say "what if" about key injuries, but at least the games get played.
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2009, 03:03:23 pm »
Quote from: landlocked on January 04, 2009, 11:09:44 am
Food for thought......if we had a playoff we would still have arguments about what if so and so wasn't injured,etc.
Every major sport has a playoff.  If some Spurs fan says, "San Antonio should have really been the NBA champs last year, but Ginobili got injured," do you think anyone else gives a damn?  Injuries (specifically, durability) are part of the sport.  Winning a poll is not.

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And college football would basically be like college basketball---the regular season would mean dick,only the tournament counts.
So I guess the NFL regular season also means dick, then?  I mean, just ask New England or Dallas.

The argument that having an actual postseason tournament is some sort of bad thing is absurd.  Every other major team sport has a playoff.  Is the regular season worthless in every other sport?
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2009, 08:57:23 pm »
My entire point,gentlemen,is playoff or not,we will always be saying what if.....just like we are now.
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2009, 10:23:30 pm »
Yes, in exactly the same way that we spent many weeks before and after the Super Bowl arguing over who the champions of the NFL were, right?

Or how every year is filled with heated arguments about who is actually the national champion in NCAA college basketball?
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2009, 08:22:25 am »
Quote from: pintofguinness14 on January 04, 2009, 01:54:07 pm
Too many acronyms, hoodie. I feel like I'm reading a SMS on my phone!

Landlocked: People will always say "what if" about key injuries, but at least the games get played.

NEP = New England Patriots
AFCE = American Football Conference East
QB = Quarterback
SB = Superbowl

which one confused you? 
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2009, 11:19:56 am »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on January 04, 2009, 10:23:30 pm
Yes, in exactly the same way that we spent many weeks before and after the Super Bowl arguing over who the champions of the NFL were, right?

Or how every year is filled with heated arguments about who is actually the national champion in NCAA college basketball?

When was the last time an undefeated team did not play in the SB?
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2009, 01:19:14 am »
When were the last 10 times an undefeated team did not play in the championship game, any sport?

Answer: Division IA college football
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2009, 10:37:34 am »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on January 06, 2009, 01:19:14 am
When were the last 10 times an undefeated team did not play in the championship game, any sport?

Answer: Division IA college football

You are the one who made the statement about the NFL playoffs and the SB as compared to a non exsistant college one. My question was not hyperbole, but in direct response to your statement.
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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2009, 11:54:00 am »
bsmooth,

I didn't make any statements; I asked two questions.  The questions were:

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Yes, in exactly the same way that we spent many weeks before and after the Super Bowl arguing over who the champions of the NFL were, right?

Or how every year is filled with heated arguments about who is actually the national champion in NCAA college basketball?
The rather obvious answers to those questions are:

1) we don't spend any time arguing over who the champions of the NFL are (because that is unequivocally determined by the playoffs)
2) we don't spend any time arguing over who the champions of NCAA college basketball are (because that is unequivocally determined by the tournament)

Hence, the claim that college football playoff would still leave us with just as much debate is absurd.
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