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MyGodWearsAHoodie
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2009, 05:50:35 pm »

If you buy into the BCS computers than you must also agree that the Patriots won the Lombardi in 2007. 

18-1 vs. 14-6, with the teams tieing in head to head.  No question if you fed last years NFL season into the BCS computers the Patriots would have been ranked number one.  Giants might not even make the top 5.   

As long as there is no legitimate playoffs, the BCS title is meaningless.     
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2009, 09:24:48 pm »

As long as there is no legitimate playoffs, the BCS title is meaningless.     

QFT.  And it is humanly possible to have an 8-team, or even a 16-team playoff in Division 1A college football.
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2009, 09:49:34 pm »

QFT.  And it is humanly possible to have an 8-team, or even a 16-team playoff in Division 1A college football.

IMO 16 would be too many and unnecessary.

8 would take three weeks. 

The 6 conf winners from the major conf + 2 wild cards.   If a midmajor goes undefeated they are automatically in.  At least one wild card from the midmajors.  The last wild card can either be another winner of a midmajor conf or the second place finisher of one of the 6 major conf. 

 
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2009, 09:55:37 pm »

IMO 16 would be too many and unnecessary.

8 would take three weeks. 

The 6 conf winners from the major conf + 2 wild cards.   If a midmajor goes undefeated they are automatically in.  At least one wild card from the midmajors.  The last wild card can either be another winner of a midmajor conf or the second place finisher of one of the 6 major conf. 

 

What if you have a controversy like Texas Tech, Okla, Texas had this year?  Someone gets the shaft regardless....having said that, with the above playoff scenario, the shaft wouldn't be...how do I say...as thick as the current system.  I agree with an 8 team playoff.
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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2009, 10:01:16 pm »

IMO 16 would be too many and unnecessary.

8 would take three weeks. 

The 6 conf winners from the major conf + 2 wild cards.   If a midmajor goes undefeated they are automatically in.  At least one wild card from the midmajors.  The last wild card can either be another winner of a midmajor conf or the second place finisher of one of the 6 major conf.  

16 teams is too many??  That's what Division 1-AA, Division II and Division III do.  If they can do it, so can Division 1-A.
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2009, 10:30:38 pm »

What if you have a controversy like Texas Tech, Okla, Texas had this year?  Someone gets the shaft regardless....having said that, with the above playoff scenario, the shaft wouldn't be...how do I say...as thick as the current system.  I agree with an 8 team playoff.

For me the Texas Tech, Okla, Texas isn't as big of a deal as Utah.  Utah went undefeated, the others would have won the conf if they had won one more game.

I really don't see Texas or Texas tech being left out as any different than NE not being declared the winner of the AFCE this year. 
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2009, 11:38:15 pm »

Utah beat Alabama convincingly and the game was pretty much over by the end of the 1st quarter, where as Florida had to seal the victory against Bama in the 4th quarter. Plus this was a home game for Bama.
I know all you SEC fans are blinded by your love, but not going undefeated in bowls makes it hard to to substantiate that claim. The SEC only has one more victory than the Big 12 does.
So you know.  I'm a USC fan.  I live in SEC country, but I picked my college team when I picked my Phins.  In the early '70s.

    Mississippi beat FL.  Who beat Oklahoma, who beat Texas Tech, who beat Texas.  So should Mississippi be No. 1?

  Utah beat Bama.  Who was the No. 4 Ranked team in the country.  Not No. 1 BTW.   Tip your hat to Utah & say "Good game"   FL/Bama play every year.  Little more of a rivalry there & as I said in the post you quoted.  Play Ga. this week, then follow that up with LSU, then onto Bama & see if you have an easy time all three weeks.  Its hard to bring your A game every game against stout competition.   Just ask Utah they struggled to beat TCU by winning with 48 sec. left in the game.  Who got embarrassed by Okla.  Who got beat by FL.   You can play this game till the next blue moon.. 

Who does Utah have to get up for week after week?  Air Force?  Weber St?  Utah St?   Utah would be a 2 or 3 loss team in the SEC.   If Utah wants to be taken seriously.  Play a tougher out of conference schedule or change conferences.  Not knocking them for Michigan, but Weber St.?

FL went 11-1 against bowl teams this year.  Utah?  5-0.  Little difference in strength of schedule.  Would you not agree? 

Also, the Sugar Bowl is in New Orleans, which is in southern Louisiana, so it was not a home game.  It was closer than Utah, but home game implies they play on that field often.

Actually the SEC had two more wins.  6-2 to 4-3.  Why does the SEC have to go unbeaten to stake claim as the best conference in the NCAA?   The best do lose from time to time.  Its one game.   It happens. 

NE was the best team in the NFL in '07, but lost the Super Bowl.  Play that game 10 times & NE probably win 7 or 8 of them.  It took one of the greatest plays in SB history to beat them.
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