It is almost like both parties want to lose....

[Spider-Dan]

Well, my more general point was that at the federal level, there are Democrats that openly campaign as liberal/progressive, there are Democrats that openly campaign as moderate, and there are Democrats that openly campaign as conservative.  In contrast, there are zero Republicans that campaign as liberal/progressive, there are almost none that openly campaign as moderate (I don't believe even the Maine twins in the Senate would actually use that term), and everyone else is always trying to out-conservative their opposition.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Well, my more general point was that at the federal level, there are Democrats that openly campaign as liberal/progressive, there are Democrats that openly campaign as moderate, and there are Democrats that openly campaign as conservative.  In contrast, there are zero Republicans that campaign as liberal/progressive, there are almost none that openly campaign as moderate (I don't believe even the Maine twins in the Senate would actually use that term), and everyone else is always trying to out-conservative their opposition.

Oddly enough, in the Mass senate race neither is even mentioning their own party.  If you watched the republican's ads and didn't know better you would bet money that he was running as a third party candiate.  The dems aren't quite as strong.

But neither of them mention their own party, their oppenant, the Obama administatration etc. just how "independant" they are. 

[Spider-Dan]

This is the general election campaign now, though.  I was talking more about primaries.

[Dave Gray]

Frimp, I just don't understand your position.  I understand not liking Obama's policies, if that's your thing, but I don't get how anyone can call him a socialist.  ...for anything.  Obamacare (fact) is based off of previous Republican ideas which is an insurance mandate for PRIVATE companies.  Like it or not, it's nothing even remotely close to socialism. 

We do have aspects of socialism in our country: education, transportation infrastructure, mail, social security, and medicare.  But both parties are pretty on board with these ideas at this point, aside from the fringe.

What facts can you bring to the table to support your stance?  I'm not trolling; I really would like to understand where these allegations are coming from.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

^^^^ Actually there is one  group of US citizens who have single payer socialized style health care.  -- The military.