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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2012, 08:30:39 am »

What worries me about Carpenter isn't that he missed two in the Jets game, but rather the trend he's had of missing too many 45+ kicks.

HOWEVER, that doesn't translate to "Carpenter needs to go". Anyone who honestly thinks Carpenter should get the boot RIGHT NOW is a moron. Sorry, but that's the simple truth. (I'm not saying anyone here is saying he needs to go right now, but it sometimes sounds like it).

By all means, bring in some competition. Look to replace him. But, for the love of God, please get a BETTER kicker in place before letting Carpenter go.

I said last week that he needs to start making some 45+ kicks in order to prove himself. He made one today, but also missed a 50+ kick. To me, that leaves him about the same... i.e. he still needs to prove himself and make some of those long kicks.
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2012, 09:56:22 am »

What worries me about Carpenter isn't that he missed two in the Jets game, but rather the trend he's had of missing too many 45+ kicks.

HOWEVER, that doesn't translate to "Carpenter needs to go". Anyone who honestly thinks Carpenter should get the boot RIGHT NOW is a moron. Sorry, but that's the simple truth. (I'm not saying anyone here is saying he needs to go right now, but it sometimes sounds like it).

By all means, bring in some competition. Look to replace him. But, for the love of God, please get a BETTER kicker in place before letting Carpenter go.

I said last week that he needs to start making some 45+ kicks in order to prove himself. He made one today, but also missed a 50+ kick. To me, that leaves him about the same... i.e. he still needs to prove himself and make some of those long kicks.

Yeah, I said he needs to go but that was right after he missed and was a statement made based on emotion. lol

Seriously, they need to explore their options. There must be plenty of great, unemployed kickers out there. Most never get drafted. Look at what KC did with a 7th. Sucoup is awesome.
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2012, 11:34:04 am »

There must be plenty of great, unemployed kickers out there. Most never get drafted. Look at what KC did with a 7th. Sucoup is awesome.

Succop hasn't attempted anything longer than 45 yards this year and his career stats look similar to Carpenters -- slightly worse than him last year. This year he's missed a 40-yarder.

Anyway, Carpenter has plenty of leg as demonstrated by his touchbacks and his 3 for 3 stat on 50+ field goals this preseason.
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2012, 11:44:53 am »

Succop hasn't attempted anything longer than 45 yards this year and his career stats look similar to Carpenters -- slightly worse than him last year. This year he's missed a 40-yarder.

Anyway, Carpenter has plenty of leg as demonstrated by his touchbacks and his 3 for 3 stat on 50+ field goals this preseason.

Since they moved the KO to the 35, it is pretty common for a kicker to get a touchback. If "I HAD" to pick a kicker based on his strength of kicking FG's or getting TB's, I take the FG's.

I am no kicker, but it seems that Carps problems "could be" easily fixed. He has been consistently wide left and his ball goes almost totally straight. Why not make a small adjustment?

One thing is certain. He should be the 1st to get to practice and the last to leave. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2012, 02:45:08 pm »

I am no kicker, but it seems that Carps problems "could be" easily fixed. He has been consistently wide left and his ball goes almost totally straight. Why not make a small adjustment?

One thing is certain. He should be the 1st to get to practice and the last to leave. 

That last part I can agree with. No way should he feel satisfied with his performance this season. Hopefully, it's just a fluke and he'll be back to his old self again. The problem with kickers is that the mental component is huge and it seems like they sometimes just fall apart.

Like I said, I'm absolutely not averse to bringing in some competition. Not sure how much sense it makes now, in the middle of the season, but maybe bring in someone for a look-see?
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2012, 06:30:42 pm »

I'm thinking once Kaeding is healthy maybe take a look at Nick Novak. Seems like a good option.
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2012, 07:26:05 pm »

I'm thinking once Kaeding is healthy maybe take a look at Nick Novak. Seems like a good option.

Ireland/Philbin held on to Naanee for a while before finally cutting bait. They didn't bail when the world saw he was worthless. Not sure they are in a rush to get rid of Carpenter. I think Carpenter might have 2 strikes against him but I don't know if a switch is coming soon. I think he is one more major screw up away from being gone.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2012, 10:18:36 pm »

Not saying get rid of him, but just bring in Novak, if nothing else to let Carpenter know that he's not immune and he needs to shape up, or he will be replaced.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2012, 10:18:55 pm »

Not saying get rid of him, but just bring in Novak, if nothing else to let Carpenter know that he's not immune and he needs to shape up, or he will be replaced.

What you don't want Billy Cundiff? lol
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2012, 10:47:53 pm »

Novak is no icon of success either.  He's missed his fair share of kicks, which is why he's only on a team if they've got an injury.

That said, I have no problem bringing in competition.
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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2012, 11:20:44 pm »

Not saying get rid of him, but just bring in Novak, if nothing else to let Carpenter know that he's not immune and he needs to shape up, or he will be replaced.

I'm sure he already realizes he needs to make those kicks.  Adding pressure isn't going to make things better.
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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2012, 10:28:22 am »

Why not?  I'm sure he knows but maybe it gets a little more real if he sees another guy lining up in front of his goal posts on the practice field.  Doesn't have to be Novak, just thought he was the best of the (soon-to-be) jobless.
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