New evidence in Pete Rose saga

[ArtieChokePhin]

I'm surprised no one has talked about this yet.  Now is coming out that he bet on games as a player.  This should be the final nail in the coffin for him.

[Sunstroke]

I think the whole gambling issue is just stupid. As long as a player doesn't bet against himself or his team, or do anything to throw a game, I just don't care if he drops some cash on a sporting event.

[Spider-Dan]

The problem is that if you bet on on your own team, but only sometimes, then you potentially have more non-baseball-related motivation for some games (i.e. the ones you bet on) than others (the ones you don't).

It's just a bad idea to have baseball people betting on their own sport, and it's simply unacceptable for them to bet on any of their own team's games (for or against).

[MikeO]

I think the whole gambling issue is just stupid. As long as a player doesn't bet against himself or his team, or do anything to throw a game, I just don't care if he drops some cash on a sporting event.

Such a simplistic view that is 100% dead wrong. Players betting on games tarnishes the games. If Pete Rose bet on his team to win Mon, Wed, and Thurs. But just doesn't bet at all on Tuesday. That is telling his bookie or whoever he bets with (and that word will spread inside circles) that he doesn't think his team will win on Tuesday. That is messing with the integrity of the game. He is giving signals and sending a message don't bet on his team tonight because the player that bets every night on his team to win isn't betting them tonight that they will win.

Pete Rose was never going to get reinstated anyway, this just cements it. He is a joke and a clown and deserves to be banned for life.

[Sunstroke]

Such a simplistic view that is 100% dead wrong.

Thanks again for quoting from the Gospel of MikeO...hallelujah!

[CF DolFan]

Gambling smambling ... Pete Rose is literally one of the best players to ever play the game and everyone knows that. The fact he is an ass who bet on the game doesn't change that. Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth probably did as much if not worse. Shoe-less Joe Jackson will never be forgotten and neither will Pete Rose.

[Phishfan]

Such a simplistic view that is 100% dead wrong. Players betting on games tarnishes the games. If Pete Rose bet on his team to win Mon, Wed, and Thurs. But just doesn't bet at all on Tuesday. That is telling his bookie or whoever he bets with (and that word will spread inside circles) that he doesn't think his team will win on Tuesday. That is messing with the integrity of the game. He is giving signals and sending a message don't bet on his team tonight because the player that bets every night on his team to win isn't betting them tonight that they will win.

Pete Rose was never going to get reinstated anyway, this just cements it. He is a joke and a clown and deserves to be banned for life.

Your entire scenario has almost nothing to do with tarnishing the game and is a better explanation of how it tarnishes betting.

[MikeO]

Your entire scenario has almost nothing to do with tarnishing the game and is a better explanation of how it tarnishes betting.

Of course it tarnishes the game. If Pete bets every day but one, on the day he doesn't bet he could be doing something to try and throw the game to help ensure a loss (just cause Pete says he didn't throw games doesn't make it true, he has lied about everything.) Even if he isn't trying to throw games....that's the message it sends!!He brings a cloud of doubt over the games because of his gambling. Are the games now legit? Or being thrown? It tarnishes the games!! That is the message it sends to the people he gambles with and to anyone who knows he gambles in general. It tarnishes the game. Because now those people take this info and go bet against the Reds with the info...."hey Pete isn't betting on the Reds tonight, Pete bets on the Reds all the time, something is up, hey lets go bet against the Reds." Now some random game in May on a Tuesday has an unusual ton of money bet on it as word spreads through the gambling world. MLB doesn't want that. It makes the games look fishy and fixed. Or...if Pete is in the hole for however much money he has lost, instead of paying the money back he doesn't bet on a random game when he is always betting, ...it could be info to the bookie that hey Pete is telling us something here (in reality Pete probably just told them bet against us we never beat this pitcher), let's just call his debts square if what we think is gonna happen tonight happens. Now he is providing information to bookies and gamblers that tarnishes the game and brings a cloud of doubt over the game.

That's why Players can't bet on baseball. Who you bet for to win is not the point and is meaningless. By betting you bring a cloud of doubt the game is on the up and up. It turns games into Pro Wrestling! Even if you don't bet for one day you are sending a message. Not to mention Pete has LIED about everything from day 1. Every time new info comes out...its Pete caught in a lie. So when Pete says he never "threw a game"....who the hell can believe him at this point. He probably did! He gambled as a player, as a manager...both things he said he never did. Pete is a liar. He probably did tank and try to throw games. All the evidence points in that direction.

[Phishfan]

So rather than make money on a thrown game, he just did it for others to make money. That is quite a theory.

One thing I can agree with is he is a liar.

[MikeO]

So rather than make money on a thrown game, he just did it for others to make money. That is quite a theory.

One thing I can agree with is he is a liar.

He probably thought or had logic that betting on a game he was throwing was "against the rules" while not betting on a game he was possibly throwing or telling people his team was  probably losing was not breaking any rules. Pete Rose is a lying lunatic! Trying to get inside his head is impossible.

[Tenshot13]

He probably thought or had logic that betting on a game he was throwing was "against the rules" while not betting on a game he was possibly throwing or telling people his team was  probably losing was not breaking any rules. Pete Rose is a lying lunatic! Trying to get inside his head is impossible.

Choke slammed by Kane one too many times at Wrestlemania.