Should Cam have tried to recover that fumble?

[Rich]

And he graduated college? Ahhh, the state of edjewcashun in this country is astounding.

Criticizing people for the use of improper English is racist.

[Baba Booey]

Interestingly, the 49 Super Bowls before this one, the losing QB graciously shook the hands of the winners, congratulated them and were gracious in defeat (as was Cam).

Oh, wait- did I say 49? Sorry, meant 48. I'm sure that everyone bitching about Cam's press conference was also crushing Manning for skipping out on the midfield handshake and congrats to Brees and the Saints in '09, since this seems to be a much more egregious offense, you know- disrespecting an entire team vs disrespecting the media.

Let's not have a double standard here, one will do just fine.


To answer the original question, Cam didn't need to dive for the ball. Miller illegally batted it and the refs missed it. Miller has even admitted as much. The correct call would have been Panthers' ball, no need for Cam to pointlessly risk anything if the right call gets made. End of story. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/15/miller-could-have-been-called-for-illegal-bat-on-newton-fumble/
 

The double standard is Cam all year showboated, acted like a jerk, and rubbed it in his opponents faces and told everyone hey, you gotta live with it Im having fun and if you don't like it stop me. Well, someone finally stopped him and the one time all year he lost and had to take it, he couldn't. No double standard at all. Cam just got a taste of his own medicine! And Cam couldn't take it and came off as a phony and a hypocrite.

Again, in Cam's own words...."there are no band aid's for hurt feelings." Cam should take his own advice. Don't be a pissy little loser and instead act like a professional and show some class instead of walking out of a press conference. So Manning didn't get a chance to shake his hand after the game on the field, big deal. So be it, it was a zoo after the game with media and players.  Doesn't excuse Cam for being a jerk and walking out of the press conference.

Saying Cam didn't need to dive on the ball of a 1 score game in the 4th quarter of a super bowl is delusional. It's the Super Bowl, you better go all out. I don't care who batted the ball, try and get it and dive on it and try to!  No heart, no class. Cam will never live this down in the eyes of objective Non-Panthers fans across America.  Sorry, just keeping it real.

[pondwater]

Criticizing people for the use of improper English is racist.

Yes, I am well aware. Criticizing any minority is racist these days. Even if they are 100% wrong, they are beyond reproach. Everyone's picking on the QB of the Panthers because he's black.

[CF DolFan]

Even blacks who criticize anything about other AA are called racist. Fortunately its losing its affect in the whole scheme of things although the San Bernandino shootings succeeded because of it.

I'm friends on Facebook with Jeff Blake as he was my high school QB. He posted a video today celebrating the history of the Black Panthers for black history month. I started to respond and thought screw it. There's just no way to not get called a racist by someone on his page who does not know me. The funny thing was I hung with more blacks in HS than he did. I have some AA friends that will tell you he didn't become "black" until he got into the NFL.   

BTW ... how long until it gets changed to African American History Month?

[Tenshot13]

^^^I thought "African American" was changed to "Black" as the accepted term a couple of years back...

[EDGECRUSHER]

Any chance he just had a complete brainfart and wasn't thinking about saving himself form injury but rather his legs just froze on him?

I know he looks at it and pulls up, but that would take a whole lot of processing in a short time for him to think that he needs to save himself from injury to make future endorsement dollars.

[CF DolFan]

^^^I thought "African American" was changed to "Black" as the accepted term a couple of years back...

I've never heard it any different than black. No matter how you say it ... it is a separatist term.

[EKnight]

Any chance he just had a complete brainfart and wasn't thinking about saving himself form injury but rather his legs just froze on him?

I know he looks at it and pulls up, but that would take a whole lot of processing in a short time for him to think that he needs to save himself from injury to make future endorsement dollars.

I think it's more likely he saw the ball was batted, realized he didn't need to dive for it because it should have been a penalty and Carolina ball, so he just stopped.

All of you guys who still think race isn't involved in these things are delusional. Peyton refused to shake Brees' hand after he lost to the Saints, but Cam is a sore loser for leaving a press conference. Now Peyton is accused of putting his genitals on a female trainer, but no mention of that on these boards. Nope, rather talk more shit about Newton- over a week after the game- than say anything about Manning when the rest of the sports world has it as a headline story. Yep. Real objectivity at work here.

[Baba Booey]

I think it's more likely he saw the ball was batted, realized he didn't need to dive for it because it should have been a penalty and Carolina ball, so he just stopped.

All of you guys who still think race isn't involved in these things are delusional. Peyton refused to shake Brees' hand after he lost to the Saints, but Cam is a sore loser for leaving a press conference. Now Peyton is accused of putting his genitals on a female trainer, but no mention of that on these boards. Nope, rather talk more shit about Newton- over a week after the game- than say anything about Manning when the rest of the sports world has it as a headline story. Yep. Real objectivity at work here.

When you screw up in the Super Bowl it gets talked about forever, stories don't die in a week. They don't die ever!  Norwood, Lett...etc. The Super Bowl is the biggest stage in sports with the world watching. Messing up there (like Cam did during the game and after) and those stories don't ever die, ever. And the great ones never give up on a play. To say he knew the ball was batted as the play was going on and to assume the play was over (you know what they say about people who assume) is stupid as a defense fans like you are using and stupid as a player as a reason to not jump on a fumble. Giving up on a play in the 4th quarter of a close Super Bowl shows his lack of character and lack of heart.

And playing the race card is lame. Peyton didn't shake the hands of Brees on the field, who cares they are BFF's. They hang out together in the offseason. They petitioned the league together to get rules changed. They are buddies and nobody aside from Cam-homers who are grasping at straws to defend him is bringing this up from years ago. Peyton lost 2 Super Bowls and he didn't run from the media after the game. He took his medicine and answered every question after the game. That's all that matters.

Again, Cam needs to follow his own catch-phrase...."There is no band-aid for hurt feelings." If anything comes from all of this maybe Cam will learn a lesson. Next year he won't showboat, over-celebrate meaningless plays, and rub his opponents faces in it when things are going his way. Maybe Cam will act like a professional and just play the game and not go into over excessive celebrations.  I doubt any of that will come from this, but hopefully he proves me wrong. Until he can do that though Cam's reputation is that of a pampered, spoiled, cry-baby loser.

If you are going to put on your gold shoes and your custom made superman shirt bringing un-needed attention to yourself prior to the game and trying to market yourself and not the team in the biggest game of your life,  making it all about you, then when the game ends man up and don't run away from the reporters! 

[Baba Booey]

Any chance he just had a complete brainfart and wasn't thinking about saving himself form injury but rather his legs just froze on him?

So he choked in a big spot is essentially what you are saying. Possible, very possible. He either choked or he wimped out and didn't want to get hit, there really is no 3rd option.

[Pappy13]

I think it's more likely he saw the ball was batted, realized he didn't need to dive for it because it should have been a penalty and Carolina ball, so he just stopped.

Only one problem with your theory, it's not true. Cam himself has already said that the reason he didn't go for the ball was the fact that he was in a bad position to go after it. He never mentioned the ball being batted backwards because that story didn't even break until after Cam had already been asked why he didn't go after the ball. Cam didn't know the ball had been batted illegally by Miller. I don't think really anyone knew until Miller himself admitted as much just a day or 2 ago.

[Sunstroke]

Any chance he just had a complete brainfart...

I think it's more likely he saw the ball was batted, realized he didn't need to dive for it because it should have been a penalty and Carolina ball, so he just stopped.

So yeah, that would be a brainfart, since no penalty was called.

All of you guys who still think race isn't involved in these things are delusional.

Congratulations on being part of the problem, rather than part of the solution. I know you're all boo-hooey over the Panthers tanking in the Super Bowl, but that's no reason to go braindead and just start spouting stupid race card garbage all over the place.

[Rich]

I think it's more likely he saw the ball was batted, realized he didn't need to dive for it because it should have been a penalty and Carolina ball, so he just stopped.

[Rich]

OMG, I just used a white guy stretching. How racist of me...