Packers submit proposal to ban 'Tush Push' play for 2025 season

[Downunder Dolphan]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-submit-proposal-to-ban-tush-push-play-for-2025-season-per-report/
https://www.nfl.com/news/unnamed-nfl-team-proposes-rule-to-ban-tush-push-play-popularized-by-eagles

Personally I'd like to see the play banned.

If the NFL are trying to be serious about player safety, this is too much like the rugby union scrum (which is one of the most dangerous situations in sport). The chances of a life changing neck or spinal injury (or even worse) is just too great to allow this to go on.

[Spider-Dan]

Why aren't other teams running this play with the same success?

[Downunder Dolphan]

Why aren't other teams running this play with the same success?

Umm because it's fucking dangerous? You have the risk of turning your franchise, multi-million dollar quarterback (or others) into paraplegics, quadriplegics, or even dead?

I think the writing was on the wall last season when the Ravens would sub Jackson out for TE Andrews to do this play: a lower paid, lower valued player who would risk/be sacrificed by the suits of the franchise for that. At that stage, you really are just treating these athletes as disposable, human meat for entertainment. This is heading way too close to the stuff of Rollerball - until/unless the NFL get their asses sued off first. If there's one thing you can count on in the USA, the major Corporations and the insurers know exactly how much a life is actually worth. If they don't when they take the risk with human lives, they do when the lose a court case. It's a game they willingly play, with your lives as collateral damage.

If they are remotely worried about the effect of CTE, concussions and player safety, it just has to stop. Right now. Period.

Or alternatively make the athletes (and their families) know they have signed their rights away to be exactly what I said, human pieces of meat.

[Sibster]

I don't think any player who sustains that type of injury has any type of case.   They know the risks of playing this game when they come to play in this league and I'm sure there is language in their contracts that contains a waiver clause in case of an injury of that magnitude.   

If anything, teams should include insurance policies with players' pay that will pay them millions if they sustain a career ending injury.   So far, players have to pay for those types of policies themselves.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If the NFL was serious about safety the would not allow players to wear weapons and have the same equipment as rugby.

Packers proposal has zero about safety.  Packers DC can't figure out how to stop it and the OC can't figure out how to replicate it that is the only reason.

It is always curious how some innovations get banned and others copied.

[CF DolFan]

I never understood banning using other players to jump up to block kicks. This rule would seem to follow that agenda as far as I can see. I don't think it is a safety rule at all even though it's only being brought up because most teams cannot do it. 

[Dave Gray]

I am a big fan of banning it.  And sure, I will lean on that it's dangerous if that's the reason why.  But the real reason why is because it's boring and bad football.  You can't really spot the ball effectively, it's not interesting, and it makes 3rd down and short uninteresting.  The unintended consequences of someone who watches football for entertainment -- when the Eagles are 3rd and 2, it's just not compelling to watch.  I might as well change the channel.  It's not a football play.

Also, it's a very easy fix.  In the pocket, you can't propel your own player....similar to launching during a FG block like CF said.

[masterfins]

I'm for banning it, it's a rugby play, not a football play.  It was an illegal play prior to 2005 so switching it back is not that big of a deal to me.  Not to mention it gives the offense an unfair advantage; if the offense can push their player forward then the defense should be able to do the same without penalty.