So who's the odd man out ?

[Denver_Bronco]

The San Diego Chargers have announced the team has signed QB A.J. Feeley to a restructured contract through 2007.

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the restructured contract signed by San Diego Chargers QB A.J. Feeley was a two-year, $2 million deal that includes a $455,000 signing bonus.



So who will be going bye-bye ?

[TonyB0D]

rivers, the chargers already made a long-term offer to brees

[YoFuggedaboutit]

rivers, the chargers already made a long-term offer to brees

They did?  Even with that knee injury?

[bsfins]

They did? Even with that knee injury?

Shoulder....

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Still, if they gave Brees a long term deal, that means they're committed to him as a starter.  Then THAT means they can't afford to pay Rivers a starter's salary to keep him on the bench, which makes him expendable. 

[Phishfan]

To my knowledge the Chargers have not made Brees an offer yet. I would also guess that Feeley contract is lower than this initial Clayton report. I think that because the purpose of restructuring the contract was to keep Feeley in San Diego. The GM basically said without this deal Feeley would have to have been let go (paraphrase). The statement was something like this new contract will allow us to keep Feeley.

[TonyB0D]

To my knowledge the Chargers have not made Brees an offer yet.

well then you need to go search for the article so you can get that knowledge.  i forgot where i read it otherwise i would post it.  AJ Smith said, the ball's in Bree's court, they'll give him a week to decide, and it was like 4 days and they havent heard back from him.  this was like almost 2 weeks ago, and i havent heard if he accepted or not.

[TEKGOD]

There is no long term deal on the table for Brees yet. The deadline is the 23rd. The Chargers probably won't franchise Brees, they will want to offer a transitive contract. Something that gives them flexibility & an insurance policy. Basically they are scared to play their hands now so they are going to wait until the last minute to see how that shoulder is holding up. I say put one of them (brees/rivers) on the block already & get something for them while you can before both of them end up as duds.

[Sunstroke]

well then you need to go search for the article so you can get that knowledge. i forgot where i read it otherwise i would post it. AJ Smith said, the ball's in Bree's court, they'll give him a week to decide, and it was like 4 days and they havent heard back from him. this was like almost 2 weeks ago, and i havent heard if he accepted or not.

There has been an initial long-term offer made to Brees' agent, but I haven't found anything that breaks down what the offer is. Here is the article from about a week ago:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060210/news_1s10brees.html

I think that all of the posturing that SD is doing right now regarding their interest in keeping both Brees and Rivers, is just that...posturing. Two things that make me think this...

1) Marty Chokenheimer knows how close his team is to contending for a title

2) Marty Chokenheimer knows how close his ass is to being axed if he doesn't win something soon

I think that they'll sign Brees long-term shortly, and I think the Bolts will be actively burning up the phone lines, trying to find a deal for Rivers that will give them enough talent in other areas (picks/players) to put them over the top.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

There has been an initial long-term offer made to Brees' agent, but I haven't found anything that breaks down what the offer is. Here is the article from about a week ago:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060210/news_1s10brees.html

I think that all of the posturing that SD is doing right now regarding their interest in keeping both Brees and Rivers, is just that...posturing. Two things that make me think this...

1) Marty Chokenheimer knows how close his team is to contending for a title

2) Marty Chokenheimer knows how close his ass is to being axed if he doesn't win something soon

I think that they'll sign Brees long-term shortly, and I think the Bolts will be actively burning up the phone lines, trying to find a deal for Rivers that will give them enough talent in other areas (picks/players) to put them over the top.

Now here's where you can see a three-team deal, which is rare in the NFL.  I would definitely give up Ricky for Rivers, but the Chargers don't need another running back.  So I say find a team that needs a running back and has someone the Chargers need, trade Ricky there, and send that someone to San Diego for Rivers.

[Sunstroke]

Now here's where you can see a three-team deal, which is rare in the NFL. I would definitely give up Ricky for Rivers, but the Chargers don't need another running back. So I say find a team that needs a running back and has someone the Chargers need, trade Ricky there, and send that someone to San Diego for Rivers. 

Sounds like a plan... If AZ wasn't so focused on the two draft RBs on their plate (DeAngelo and LenDale), I'd think they'd be a perfect fit. San Diego could use O-linemen, and AZ could sign and trade LJ Shelton to SD in that mix. Other teams that could possibly be involved (read: teams that need a RB) could be: Minnesota, Carolina, Denver, NYJ, Cleveland...even New England could be looking for Dillon's successor at this point.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Sounds like a plan... If AZ wasn't so focused on the two draft RBs on their plate (DeAngelo and LenDale), I'd think they'd be a perfect fit. San Diego could use O-linemen, and AZ could sign and trade LJ Shelton to SD in that mix. Other teams that could possibly be involved (read: teams that need a RB) could be: Minnesota, Carolina, Denver, NYJ, Cleveland...even New England could be looking for Dillon's successor at this point.

OK, so here's the proposed trade:

Miami gets:  QB Phillip Rivers from San Diego

Arizona gets:  RB Ricky Williams from Miami

San Diego gets: OT Leonard Davis from Arizona


Then we sign Ron Dayne as a solid backup for Ronnie, giving us the R&R express.

[bsfins]

Tommy..what's your obbsession with Ron Dayne?

Why would we want him?We already have a good pounder,that can catch in Ronnie Brown. We'd really need a small really fast guy as a change of pace back.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Tommy..what's your obbsession with Ron Dayne?

Why would we want him?We already have a good pounder,that can catch in Ronnie Brown. We'd really need a small really fast guy as a change of pace back.

Good point.  So who would that back be?  Travis Minor?  I'd love to hear the names of some scatbacks around the NFL that we can get for a bargain price. 

The reason I like having two pounders is that they will wear down the opposing front seven every time.  Can you imagine getting plowed into nonstop by Ronnie and Ricky all day long?  By the 4th quarter, you're gonna be hurting so bad you won't want to get up when they run over you.