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Dphins4me
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2006, 08:34:33 pm »

I'm looking for information to support your claim regarding the trade happening pre-draft, because I am certain it did not.

This is all I can find thus far.
I doubt you will find anything about when.

I'm not trying to be an arse, but I'm 100% positive about this.  I've argured this point just about since the '98 draft.   I was ticked when I heard the news on ESPN at about it, because rumors were going around that Moss could drop & I thought there was a chance for Miami to grab him.
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2006, 10:14:39 pm »

I doubt you will find anything about when.

I'm not trying to be an arse, but I'm 100% positive about this.  I've argured this point just about since the '98 draft.   I was ticked when I heard the news on ESPN at about it, because rumors were going around that Moss could drop & I thought there was a chance for Miami to grab him.
I know, and you're right, I couldn't find anything except that the pick was traded, not when.

I remember watching that draft in my college apartment, waiting all afternoon for the 19th pick, then hearing that the Dolphins traded down.  When I saw Randy Moss available at 19, I flipped - then they traded (or at least I thought) and I was sure GB traded up to get Moss.  But no - they passed and I hoped he'd fall to 29, until Minnesota pulled the trigger at 21.  I also remember watching the rest of the first round, thinking that John Avery could be the next big thing... Roll Eyes

Oh well, not that it matters.
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2006, 12:56:48 am »

I checked out the media guide...

http://www.miamidolphins.com/pressbox/mediaguide/mediaguide.asp

....and on page 642 all it gave was the date (April 18).

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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2006, 06:54:28 am »

I also remember watching the rest of the first round, thinking that John Avery could be the next big thing... Roll Eyes

After that preseason game in San Francisco when he broke that 71 yarder to win the game, everyone thought he could be the next big thing.
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2006, 10:54:35 am »

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Hate to tell you, but you remember wrong, very wrong. 

JJ traded down before the draft ever started.  That is why he tried to cover his arse with the comment about Shannon being bigger, faster & having better numbers than Moss

This is the way I remember it, too.  Johnson said he traded the pick before the draft, not during.
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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2006, 12:43:00 pm »

Do you all remember the WR we grabbed that year in the 2nd or 3rd round that Johnson repeatedly tried to spin was going to be just as good, if not better, than Moss?  I think his name was Larry Shannon out of East Carolina.   He supposedly could run faster & jump higher than Moss.  I don't believe he ever played in a game.  I think maybe he tore his ACL a time or two in camp.
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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2006, 02:36:37 pm »

Do you all remember the WR we grabbed that year in the 2nd or 3rd round that Johnson repeatedly tried to spin was going to be just as good, if not better, than Moss?  I think his name was Larry Shannon out of East Carolina.   He supposedly could run faster & jump higher than Moss.  I don't believe he ever played in a game.  I think maybe he tore his ACL a time or two in camp.

Absolutely correct.  He was a pre-season star.... never suited up for the regular season. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2006, 09:38:57 pm »

Hello. My name is keith Lambert & I am new to this site. I love the Dolphins very much, but am also tired of the December slump, non-existent running game and all of the mediocrity- 8-8 & 9-7 every year!! Also, the Ring of Dishonor could be misleading. If Yatil Green is on it for "consistent" injuries, I think you have left off 1 very important player that stayed injured his whole career..... John Offerdahl!!!
That son-of-a-gun was so injury prone it was right down pitiful & disgusting!! He played 8 seasons with the Dolphins, but stayed consistently injured all the time. In 1992, opening the season against Cleveland, he made a sack of Bernie Kosar and the stat came up which reads: "9th sack of 7 year NFL career!!! 9 sacks in 7 years!!! Come on!!! Then he retired after the '93 season due to a separated shoulder!! Seems like every year he was getting hurt and not in the line-up. So if injuries are part of the reason for a lot of the bad play or inconsistencies, or a draft bust, I think he should be considered for the Ring as injury prone as he was!!

Thank You, Keith Lambert Embarrassed
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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2006, 09:49:16 pm »

Welcome to the boards DanDaMan.  In case you didn't notice, with Saban at the helm, the Dolphins won all their games in December and January last season.
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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2006, 11:09:23 pm »

Hey DanDaMan13, will you please put your above post in context by comparing Offerdahl's stats to those of Zach Thomas, and, if possible, Nick Buoniconti?
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« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2006, 10:19:15 am »

Offerdahl was so bad that that he was the Defensive Rookie of the Year and made the Pro-Bowl 5 out of 8 seasons. You really cannot look at sack stats for a linebacker who was not assigned to blitz much. That like saying Dan Marino didn't have receptions.
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« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2006, 11:07:00 am »

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Offerdahl was so bad that that he was the Defensive Rookie of the Year and made the Pro-Bowl 5 out of 8 seasons. You really cannot look at sack stats for a linebacker who was not assigned to blitz much. That like saying Dan Marino didn't have receptions.

Offerdahl's injury was a stomach muscle tear that was improperly diagnosed because it wouldn't reveal itself under testing.  So each year, he'd tear the muscle again and be out.  Tragic.  He was Zach Thomas before we had Zach Thomas.  Many players from that er say Offerdahl would've been a hall of famer had he not gotten hurt.
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« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2006, 02:13:44 pm »

John Offerdahl!!!
That son-of-a-gun was so injury prone it was right down pitiful & disgusting!! He played 8 seasons with the Dolphins, but stayed consistently injured all the time. In 1992, opening the season against Cleveland, he made a sack of Bernie Kosar and the stat came up which reads: "9th sack of 7 year NFL career!!! 9 sacks in 7 years!!! Come on!!! Then he retired after the '93 season due to a separated shoulder!! Seems like every year he was getting hurt and not in the line-up. So if injuries are part of the reason for a lot of the bad play or inconsistencies, or a draft bust, I think he should be considered for the Ring as injury prone as he was!!

Thank You, Keith Lambert Embarrassed
5 time PB draft in Rd. 2.  Yea.  I'm going to complain  So he never rushed the passer.  I guess if you have to look for a weakness then that was it.
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