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« on: March 25, 2008, 04:25:08 pm »

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Jaguars interested in Jason Taylor?

This is a post about Jason Taylor but, sorry dance fans, it will not delve into his mambo.

I will delve into his future. And that possibly could lead him to Jacksonville.

I have been told by one NFL scout and one NFL assistant coach that Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio (pictured) likes the idea of trading for Taylor. I am not sure exactly how far Del Rio has gone with this -- be it considering it and discarding the idea or actually pursuing the issue.

But I do know the scenario of adding Taylor has been on the coach's mind. I will continue snooping around with some league sources and ask Del Rio about it directly at the NFL's annual meeting in Palm Beach next week. We'll soon find out if there is fire associated with this smoke.

Anyway, the whispers have not risen to the level of actually writing about it in The Herald yet. But they are credible enough to be on this blog.

Here is the scenario: The Jaguars are a pretty good team, good enough that they won 11 games last season and gave the Patriots a tough game in the playoffs. But the Jaguars realize there is a gap between good and great and they need more explosive players to be great.

They tried to address that on offense this year by acquiring deep-threat receiver Jerry Porter in free agency. They need to address that on defense by either adding a game-changing defensive end or a safety that can collect turnovers.

The bottom line is the Jacksonville defense will beat up an opponent but won't win a game. It needs a safety that can return an interception for a TD or an end that can sack the QB, cause a fumble, scoop it up, and run for the score.

Taylor is the latter.

Here's the issue: The Jaguars have the No. 26 pick in the draft and they definitely don't want to give that to Miami for Taylor. Their second rounder is No. 58 and while they might think this is still too much to give away, the Dolphins will probably think it too low a pick for Taylor.

So if this is to happen, Del Rio and the Jags would have to convince themselves No. 58 is doable and perhaps give up a second day pick as well.

This while the Dolphins would, first of all, have to decide trading Taylor is right -- remember that Bill Parcells said it wouldn't happen -- and then accept the fact a low second-rounder is the best they could do for the soon-to-be 34-year-old player.

This is not imminent. But are the Jaguars one of the teams interested in Taylor?

You bet.

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2008, 06:09:41 pm »

Is everyone else getting as tired of this Jason Taylor soap opera as I am?  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 06:29:34 pm »

Jason Taylor for the #58 pick in the draft?  I'd do it, considering he was drafted in the third round by the Dolphins.

That would give us four picks in the first 58.  If we pull off that trade with Dallas that the rumors don't die about, that would give us five, plus a stud running back.   
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 06:52:17 pm »

The rumors don't die because YOU keep bringing them up.  Isn't it enough that they traded Julius Jones to Seattle to squash it?
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2008, 06:56:25 pm »

I'd do it, considering he was drafted in the third round by the Dolphins.

WHO CARES where he was drafted? By that logic, the Patriots should be all over a 3rd rounder for Brady.

It's fair enough that you would make the trade, but if that opinion is based in any way on where he was drafted back in '97... well... that's just plain stupid.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 07:55:30 pm »

What do you expect to get for a 33 year old defensive end? I'd take the Jags high third round pick from Buffalo in a heartbeat.

And if you listened to my TDMMC appearence 2 weeks ago I did mention the Jags as a potential trading partner for JT.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2008, 08:07:02 pm »

The rumors don't die because YOU keep bringing them up.  Isn't it enough that they traded Julius Jones to Seattle to squash it?

While I agree with your thoughts about this rumor, Julius was a free agent. He went to Seattle of his own free will, not in a trade.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2008, 08:39:39 pm »

I'm not sold on the idea of getting draft picks for ALL you veterans. I believe the massive amount of youth on the team will need some veteran leadership and I'm just not convinced that the benefit of a 2nd round pick outweighs the leadership that a guy like Taylor brings to the team.

Remember, there's a very good chance we'll struggle at times this coming season and if our young players are to develop, they're going to need to keep chugging away.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 09:19:35 pm »

I'm not sold on the idea of getting draft picks for ALL you veterans. I believe the massive amount of youth on the team will need some veteran leadership and I'm just not convinced that the benefit of a 2nd round pick outweighs the leadership that a guy like Taylor brings to the team.

Remember, there's a very good chance we'll struggle at times this coming season and if our young players are to develop, they're going to need to keep chugging away.
We've not gotten rid of all our veterans...We still have Vonnie Holiday,We brought in Ferguson, (Like him or not )Joey Porter, and in the secondary Will Allen,and Y. Bell....

We need more younger players to step up and be leaders of the future (when Taylor is gone)

So I don't buy that We need veterans arguement here....This team is an aging defense that needs more youth.....
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2008, 09:54:50 pm »

The bottom line is likely, in my opinion,  that Parcells/Ireland will listen to reasonable offers for anyone on the team, including JT, and that no one is invulnerable. For now, the company line is that JT will be a dolphin next year. To say anything otherwise smacks of desperation to get rid of him, and dampens his potential value in trade to a team that thinks it is "one player away". If no deal materializes, then JT is a dolphin next year, and he'll probably play very well and be a locker room leader to a group of young defensive players. But if some team comes along with the right deal at the right price, he'll be gone.
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2008, 10:24:37 pm »

The bottom line is likely, in my opinion,  that Parcells/Ireland will listen to reasonable offers for anyone on the team, including JT, and that no one is invulnerable. For now, the company line is that JT will be a dolphin next year. To say anything otherwise smacks of desperation to get rid of him, and dampens his potential value in trade to a team that thinks it is "one player away".

Welcome to the world of trading. You have to act like you are going to keep him (bluff) and demand a 2nd round pick for Taylor, when in reality you want a 3rd round pick.

I'm not sold on the idea of getting draft picks for ALL you veterans. I believe the massive amount of youth on the team will need some veteran leadership and I'm just not convinced that the benefit of a 2nd round pick outweighs the leadership that a guy like Taylor brings to the team.

Remember, there's a very good chance we'll struggle at times this coming season and if our young players are to develop, they're going to need to keep chugging away.

Yeah...assitant coaches teach the young players how to play. Chris Long doesn't need Jason Taylor to learn how to play football. How come these rookies and young players can't learn from Reggie Torbor, Yeremiah Bell, Jason Ferguson, Randy Starks, Matt Roth, etc.

I mean Parcells had no problem cutting Zach Thomas, why would Taylor be any different in terms of trading him?

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2008, 12:09:18 am »

WHO CARES where he was drafted? By that logic, the Patriots should be all over a 3rd rounder for Brady.

It's fair enough that you would make the trade, but if that opinion is based in any way on where he was drafted back in '97... well... that's just plain stupid.

You know what the difference is?  Tom Brady is in his prime.  Jason Taylor is in the twilight of his career.  If he were Tom Brady's age, he'd be worth a 1st rounder for sure.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2008, 01:29:31 am »

If he were in his prime, there would be no talk of him leaving Miami.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2008, 02:45:33 am »

Is everyone else getting as tired of this Jason Taylor soap opera as I am?  Undecided

I with ya !
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2008, 10:09:48 am »

You know what the difference is?  Tom Brady is in his prime.  Jason Taylor is in the twilight of his career.  If he were Tom Brady's age, he'd be worth a 1st rounder for sure.

So, what you're saying is that a player's worth is determined by his abilities and his potential? Wow, never thought you'd come that far.

In other words, it doesn't matter squat where he was drafted.
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