Evidence that John Beck is the WRONG ANSWER

[Slippery Soap]

This is my first post on this board. During the last week I along with the big tuna have closely broke down film of John Beck.

My Conclusion?  Beck is a Bust and we must act quickly to fix this problem. Below is a link to a video I made exposing John Beck for the real QB he is. Be warned the video is graphic and very depressing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrjcaA5PvE

I propose that the DOlphins draft Matty Ice with the No.1 Pick.  Or trade Jason Taylor to the Patriots for the Patriots 6th overall selection and then use that selection to trade to the Cleveland Browns for Brady Quinn. With the No.1 overall choice we would then select Jake Long at the Left Tackle.

Either way getting rid of John Beck via release or trade needs to be a top priority. The rest of the team looks fine and if we can fix the QB issue I think we can compete for a playoff berth this year with the talent Parcells has brought to the team and all the trash players he has gotten rid of.

[Brian Fein]

This post sounds oddly like RFK...

I respectfully disagree with you and maintain that you can not base any judgment of John Beck on last season's dismal performance.

Welcome to the forums.

[Slippery Soap]

Thanks for welcoming me to the Forum. Have you watched the clip I made on You Tube?

There is all the evidence you will ever need.  Beck has zero awareness and his hands are way to small to play at this level.

[Matt McGuire]

Yo OP this isn't a joke thread.

John Beck is such a bad QB ... behind the worst offense in the NFL? How good were his OL, RBs, WRs, and TEs last year?

Tom Brady wouldn't have won 6 games last year with this team. Beck didn't even play that much. I think this thread should be locked honestly.

[fyo]

There is all the evidence you will ever need.  Beck has zero awareness and his hands are way to small to play at this level.

Yeah, 'cause most quarterbacks are great when they're getting blindsided 2 seconds after the snap (with no room to step up in the pocket, I might add).

[Matt McGuire]

If you all did any research on Beck when was a prospect, like actually watch him play and break him down, then you'd see he has a lot of talent.

Give him and Ted Ginn time to mature in this offense and see what happens.

[Sunstroke]

While I tend to agree about Beck not being the answer (chronic case of Deerinheadlightitis), this post has to be a joke...right?

* New England isn't giving up the #7 overall pick for Jason Taylor.
* If the Pats DID give us the #7 overall pick, the hell if I'd want to deal it to Cleveland. I'd want to stockpile more talent on the O and D line instead.

If you all did any research on Beck when was a prospect, like actually watch him play and break him down, then you'd see he has a lot of talent.

Easy on the "If you don't agree with me you're wrong" tone there... Some of us watched a lot of his BYU games, and everything he's done in a Dolphins uniform...and STILL don't think he's ever going to be a quality QB.

[simeon]

I agree Beck is a bust, Cameron drafted duds last year like Ginn.
We need to make a real move with our QB position, this has not be addressed since 2000.

While I tend to agree about Beck not being the answer (chronic case of Deerinheadlightitis), this post has to be a joke...right?

* New England isn't giving up the #7 overall pick for Jason Taylor.
* If the Pats DID give us the #7 overall pick, the hell if I'd want to deal it to Cleveland. I'd want to stockpile more talent on the O and D line instead.

Easy on the "If you don't agree with me you're wrong" tone there... Some of us watched a lot of his BYU games, and everything he's done in a Dolphins uniform...and STILL don't think he's ever going to be a quality QB.

This is an excellent point, Cleveland can keep Brady Quinn, he is there problem not ours.

[Sunstroke]

I'm not as ready to label Ginn a bust... He's shown some explosiveness in the return game, and progress as a slot receiver. I don't think he will EVER be a #1 WR and justify the high draft pick, but believe he'll be a serviceable WR for Miami.

[fyo]

We need to make a real move with our QB position, this has not be addressed since 2000.

Well, tough. Not going to happen.

We'll probably draft a second day quarterback, but nobody who's going to be even remotely ready to start games for us in September. Parcell's acquired McCown as insurance in case Beck isn't ready - and as someone who can provide a bit of competition for Beck in camp. That's a solid move, in my opinion, but there's just no way McCown is starting for us in 2009.

In other words, Beck has to be given the chance at some point this season. He may well crash and burn, but since we're not exactly going to make a push for the playoffs this season, the value in finding out outweighs the losses it might cost.

[Brian Fein]

I would just like to withhold any judgment on last year's rookies until after season #2.  Considering the overall health, mentally and physically, of the team as a whole last season, a lot of other factors influenced each player's performance that were beyond his control.

And, Stroke, Deerinheadlightitis is a common disorder eperienced by NFL rookie Qb's.  Most teams choose to allow these types of players to overcome this disorder before placing them into active duty.

[Matt McGuire]

I would just like to withhold any judgment on last year's rookies until after season #2.  Considering the overall health, mentally and physically, of the team as a whole last season, a lot of other factors influenced each player's performance that were beyond his control.

And, Stroke, Deerinheadlightitis is a common disorder eperienced by NFL rookie Qb's.  Most teams choose to allow these types of players to overcome this disorder before placing them into active duty.

John Elway says it takes 6 years to become an elite QB in this league. I think next year is big for John Beck, but your OL still really sucks. Keep building on positions other than QB to improve the talent of this team.

@Stroke: I feel like when you look at players (such as Joe Staley) you see what you see now and you don't see any potential development in them as players.

I.E. with Staley yeah he might be a better run blocker right now, but all rookies are because that is easier technique than pass pro...plus it takes a while to get used to NFL speed.

Ginn has #1 potential. Give the QB an OL and give Ginn an arm at QB (could be Beck or McCown...could not be) and I think he will eventually fluorish.

[CF DolFan]

John Beck is the wrong answer?  That's great and all but the big has been why are all these loser Patriot fans continuing to end up posting in here? (no offense to classy fans we already have) Personally I'm glad that it's not because of John Beck!! 

[MaineDolFan]

I will say again: unless Miami can pry away Quinn, the QB answer will be found in the latter rounds of the draft.  I would love to see Quinn brought in for a reasonable amount.

I'm not as down as everyone on this board is with Beck - but facts are facts: the 0-line isn't going to become a stud line over night and our WR are average at best.  Any QB is going to struggle next year, be it Beck, McCown, Marino...

Everyone thought Steve Young was a bust after his seasons in Tampa.  I think he turned out alright.  People seem to have this warped sense of what Brady did in his first season - he didn't put up great numbers, actually.  I will be interested in seeing how Beck grows if he ends up going somewhere else.

[MaineDolFan]

I think this thread should be locked honestly.

Am I missing something here?  Did someone post offensive images in this thread?  Racial slurs?  Homophobic and hateful rants?

We don't lock threads at TDMMC over a difference of opinion.  There wouldn't be any threads unlocked if we did.