Evidence that John Beck is the WRONG ANSWER

[StL FinFan]

Give up on Brady Quinn people!  The Browns are not going to deal him.  Let go of the past. Accept it and move on.

[DolFan619]

Give up on Brady Quinn people!  The Browns are not going to deal him.  Let go of the past. Accept it and move on.

QFT

[MaineDolFan]

First - opinions.  It's not beating a dead horse.  Second, Cleveland has openly stated that they will listen to offers.  They aren't keeping a former 1st round pick on the roster to rot behind Anderson after handing out that contract.  Finally, this isn't "getting over the past."  This is a simple and easy to follow statement that if Miami could make a move to obtain him, they should.  

[YoFuggedaboutit]

While I agree with Stroke and Maine that John Beck isn't the answer, there is no way the Browns are gonna part with Quinn.  He's too valuable.

The Packers didn't part with Aaron Rodgers and the Chargers held on to Philip Rivers for the same reason. 

[MaineDolFan]

Tommy...Derek Anderson is about 432 years younger than Favre.  Cleveland is a completely different situation than Green Bay was.  San Diego as well.  Brees was coming up on a contract year, they didn't have both players locked up.  The Browns do.

[Sunstroke]

@Stroke: I feel like when you look at players (such as Joe Staley) you see what you see now and you don't see any potential development in them as players.

I.E. with Staley yeah he might be a better run blocker right now, but all rookies are because that is easier technique than pass pro...plus it takes a while to get used to NFL speed.

Matt...I really do look at the long term development of prospects, and found it a little amusing that some of the posters on your site seemed to focus in on that one comment I made about Staley. Yes, I definitely can see Staley improving in his pass-blocking technique, as it is a natural area for offensive tackles to improve in during their first 2-3 seasons, but still believe he will always be a better as a run blocker...and thus best suited for the RT position, rather than LT.  I'm not saying the 49ers won't use him as a LT...just that I think his particular skill set is better suited for the other side of the line.

As a lifelong 49ers fan, I try to catch every game Joe plays, so I expect we can follow up on Staley's situation as it "develops."

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Tommy...Derek Anderson is about 432 years younger than Favre.  Cleveland is a completely different situation than Green Bay was.  San Diego as well.  Brees was coming up on a contract year, they didn't have both players locked up.  The Browns do.

Still, the concept is the same.  A QB sitting on the bench who makes starter's money doesn't necessarily have to be traded.

Although I'd love to see Quinn here, I doubt the Browns trade him due to the cap hit it would cause them to take.

[StL FinFan]

I can understand if some people want another QB.  What I can't understand is why it has to be Brady Quinn.

[Matt McGuire]

I will say again: unless Miami can pry away Quinn, the QB answer will be found in the latter rounds of the draft.  I would love to see Quinn brought in for a reasonable amount.

I'm not as down as everyone on this board is with Beck - but facts are facts: the 0-line isn't going to become a stud line over night and our WR are average at best.  Any QB is going to struggle next year, be it Beck, McCown, Marino...

Everyone thought Steve Young was a bust after his seasons in Tampa.  I think he turned out alright.  People seem to have this warped sense of what Brady did in his first season - he didn't put up great numbers, actually.  I will be interested in seeing how Beck grows if he ends up going somewhere else.

Um no you can't. Plus why would you want to invest that much in a QB when your team sucks so much? (See: David Carr, Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, etc.)

[BigDaddyFin]

How do we know that Beck is the wrong answer?  Last year wasn't John Beck's fault.  The whole team sucks.  If after this year Beck still looks jittery in the pocket, then maybe we should look elsewhere but there's no way since they just spent money on Josh McCown that they are going to draft a quarterback much before the 4th round.  If they do it'll be a project guy like Colt Brennan.

[bsfins]

Just to burst the Bubble of all the "Draft Matt Ryan People" from Peter King's Monday Morning QB yesterday....
"All those people seem like they'd be willing to trade,'' said a man who should know, former coach and now TV analyst Jimmy Johnson. "That would lend itself to a lot of movement, I would think. But will a player be there they all want? With all the guaranteed money now, you'd better be real sure about the guy, and you'd better want him real bad. Because if you miss on him, you really screw up your franchise.''

"Everyone figures Bill Parcells wants to get out of the number one spot,'' said agent Tom Condon. "But who is there [for other teams] to go up to get? Historically, the quarterback has been the guy people want. The question in this draft is: Does anyone view Matt Ryan as the franchise quarterback someone will move up high in the draft to go get?''

Condon represents Ryan, the Boston College quarterback for whom there's been no buzz around, nothing even remotely close to what JaMarcus Russell generated last year. I haven't talked to a soul in the last week who thinks Parcells will take him.


This is Matt Ryan's Agent....Your agent that is supposed to be pumping you up..Creating a buzz for you,Trying to get you every penny he can get.....

That video shows absolutely nothing..We can make a Daunte Culpepper Highlight real that makes him actually look like an NFL QB...but it doesn't mean he's a good QB....

[DolFan619]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrjcaA5PvE

  I don't mean to be rude, but that video is total crap.  If this front office truly wanted to get rid of John Beck, they would've done it already.  It's not like Beck's cap hit is significant.  I hate to burst your bubble, but Beck is here to stay.  None of us really know if Beck IS the answer, but I think this team owes itself a chance to find out.  Everything that has gone on with Beck this offseason has been fairly positive.

- GM Jeff Ireland's Introductory Press Conference.  Here are his words on the quarterback situation and John Beck.  "We're still in the process of evaluating," Ireland said of the quarterbacks. "I know Beck from the college draft last year, but I've got to sit down and really evaluate what you have here and we'll make those decisions. We were high on Beck (in last year's draft), absolutely."

- In a interview with NFL Network, GM Jeff Ireland admitted that the first two players he reached out too was Jason Taylor and John Beck.

- Before hiring Tony Sparano, the Dolphins hire Quarterback coach David Lee.  David Lee was largely responsible for Tony Romo's evolution from undrafted Division II quarterback, to top flight NFL quarterback. 

- Beck has worked with both Coach Lee and Coach Henning during this offseason.  Breaking down game film, learning the new offense, correcting footwork, fixing his delivery, he's thrown 3,500 passes this offseason, and has hired a personal trainer in which he has added 11 pounds of muscle to his frame.

  Beck deserves a shot to prove himself.  If he fails, then so be it.  I at least want too see what we have in Beck, before we just toss him aside.  Beck is working hard to be the best he can possibly be, it won't hurt to give him the opportunity too see if he is the quaterback of the future.  It's not like this team is vying for a playoff spot this year. 

[StL FinFan]

 I don't mean to be rude, but that video is total crap.  If this front office truly wanted to get rid of John Beck, they would've done it already.  It's not like Beck's cap hit is significant.  I hate to burst your bubble, but Beck is here to stay.  None of us really know if Beck IS the answer, but I think this team owes itself a chance to find out.  Everything that has gone on with Beck this offseason has been fairly positive.

- GM Jeff Ireland's Introductory Press Conference.  Here are his words on the quarterback situation and John Beck.  "We're still in the process of evaluating," Ireland said of the quarterbacks. "I know Beck from the college draft last year, but I've got to sit down and really evaluate what you have here and we'll make those decisions. We were high on Beck (in last year's draft), absolutely."

- In a interview with NFL Network, GM Jeff Ireland admitted that the first two players he reached out too was Jason Taylor and John Beck.

- Before hiring Tony Sparano, the Dolphins hire Quarterback coach David Lee.  David Lee was largely responsible for Tony Romo's evolution from undrafted Division II quarterback, to top flight NFL quarterback. 

- Beck has worked with both Coach Lee and Coach Henning during this offseason.  Breaking down game film, learning the new offense, correcting footwork, fixing his delivery, he's thrown 3,500 passes this offseason, and has hired a personal trainer in which he has added 11 pounds of muscle to his frame.

  Beck deserves a shot to prove himself.  If he fails, then so be it.  I at least want too see what we have in Beck, before we just toss him aside.  Beck is working hard to be the best he can possibly be, it won't hurt to give him the opportunity too see if he is the quaterback of the future.  It's not like this team is vying for a playoff spot this year. 

[Dave Gray]

I'm not a fan of Beck, in particular, but this video isn't really about John Beck.  It's about the ineptitude of our team.  He's getting blindsided and bum-rushed on most of the plays.  He was bad, sure, but I don't think this video illustrates that too well.

[CF DolFan]

I really didn't like Jay Fiedler as our starting QB but I certainly would have given him a bye had our team been as bad as it was for John Beck and it still early in his career.  Results are always based on situations and John was put into about as bad as one as you could have scripted.