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« on: May 02, 2008, 11:13:40 pm »

Just curious if anyone who actually likes George Bush (as a president - don't give me "i'd like to have a beer with him" shit) thinks they are an actual intelligent person. Because you have to be deaf, dumb, and blind if you don't think this guy is the biggest fuck up this country has ever seen.

Can someone actually name 1 positive contribution that George Bush has made to this country?
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2008, 11:36:19 pm »

January 20, 2009..... the end of an ERROR.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2008, 11:57:31 pm »

I thought his Supreme court nominees were good, even if I don't always agree with them.

Further, while I certainly disagree with this, he loosened restrictions on stem cell research. A lot of people think that a good thing.

Other than that, I'm stuck.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2008, 12:54:31 am »

Just curious if anyone who actually likes George Bush (as a president - don't give me "i'd like to have a beer with him" shit) thinks they are an actual intelligent person. Because you have to be deaf, dumb, and blind if you don't think this guy is the biggest fuck up this country has ever seen.

Can someone actually name 1 positive contribution that George Bush has made to this country?
Dude you must be nuts!!! What about the tax rebates and tax cuts, what about the fight against terrorism ? Bush has done many good things for this country. The last screw up we had in this country was commiting adultry in the oval office with an intern, now there was a coward who did nothing!!!
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2008, 01:05:27 am »

Tax cuts are fine if you can cut spending to match.  Unfortunately, the Bush administration spent like crazy, and gave tax cuts to the wealthiest of the population.  Bush has hurt many things, including our standing in the world.

I've disagreed with Republican politics before, but under Bush Sr. and Reagan, we were still members of the world community.

Bush is an utter failure by the standards set by his own party, not to mention the Democrats.  He will be remembered for his mis-handling of Iraq and Katrina most of all.

From an objective standpoint, everything he's touched has been a complete debacle.  And even from a partisan standpoint, on his own side, he's been a failure.  People that still support him at this point are a lost cause.

If you can seriously say that the last screwup this country had was Clinton's blowjob, then you need your head examined, as you are completely brainwashed.

I am a huge liberal, but I'd like to think that I wouldn't blindly support a candidate just because he was a democrat that was a complete failure.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2008, 02:29:21 am »

He's a failure to the overwhelming majority and a huge success to the exreme minority.  Plain and simple. 

Privatized military industry= Grin and  Wink

Rest of U.S.= Huh or  Roll Eyes or  Cry or  Angry

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2008, 03:38:50 am »

Tax cuts are fine if you can cut spending to match.  Unfortunately, the Bush administration spent like crazy,
Agreed.


and gave tax cuts to the wealthiest of the population.
All Americans.  Since taxes are based on a percentage of income, those who pay more saved more $$$, but a smaller percentage.  (lowest income margins cut 33%, highest income margins cut 17%).


Bush has hurt many things, including our standing in the world.
Everyone talks nice about the patsy who is always doing favors for them.  We might be liked less, but we're probably respected more. 


Bush is an utter failure by the standards set by his own party...
His fiscally policy leaves much to be desired.  Refusing to use his veto powers and allowing government to spend like drunken sailors wasnt' what we had in mind.


He will be remembered for his mis-handling of Iraq
Statements such as "it's going to be a long, hard slog" where underemphasized while messages like "Mission Accomplished - Saddam has been overthrown" created unrealistic expectations. 


and Katrina most of all.
Yeah, I guess he should have declared martial law and usurped power from the local and state governments. 


From an objective standpoint, everything he's touched has been a complete debacle.  And even from a partisan standpoint, on his own side, he's been a failure.  People that still support him at this point are a lost cause.

If you can seriously say that the last screwup this country had was Clinton's blowjob, then you need your head examined, as you are completely brainwashed.

I am a huge liberal...
Sadly, you're among the most open-minded and forward thinking liberals....
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2008, 05:48:44 am »

People that still support him at this point are a lost cause.

so i guess that means Supporting him is like supporting the dolphins.

I am a huge liberal, but I'd like to think that I wouldn't blindly support a candidate just because he was a democrat that was a complete failure.

Do you think you would have supported Jimmy Carter during his presidency. No offense, but that guy is worst then bush.  I could name 9 others who are worst, Bush certainly isn't the greatest but he sure as hell isn't the worst.

Even though i support him (70-75% of the time), i won't lose any sleep over him leaving. I really can't wait. just so the 200 million that think they can run this country can shut up and stop annoying the hell out of me. I'm not the type of person that will hate someone based on one thing they did. (take Jtex, hate that bastard, but i respect him) takes a hell of a lot for me to turn on someone. I have loyalty.

Or maybe i just don't care anymore. Republicans suck, democrats suck, both are fucking up the country. They don't care about anyone but themselves and will lie to us the get elected.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2008, 07:30:33 am »

Bush is an utter failure by the standards set by his own party, not to mention the Democrats.  He will be remembered for his mis-handling of Iraq and Katrina most of all.

Not to mention him instituting policies that invade our civil liberties and setting up secret bases around the country where U.S. citizens are being held against their will and tortured in the name of counterterrorism. 

You can add the extremely high gas prices and the housing crisis to that too.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2008, 09:01:26 am »

Not to mention him instituting policies that invade our civil liberties and setting up secret bases around the country where U.S. citizens are being held against their will and tortured in the name of counterterrorism. 

You can add the extremely high gas prices and the housing crisis to that too.

I think the gas prices can be blamed on him, precisely because he refuses to put a leash on spending, and we therefore take out loans, and consequently our dollar becomes devalued. I do not know if he could've done anything about the housing crisis.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2008, 09:03:04 am »

you can blame a lot of shit on bush. but high gas prices and housing troubles are 100% the fault of the federal reserve.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2008, 10:03:24 am »

you can blame a lot of shit on bush. but high gas prices and housing troubles are 100% the fault of the federal reserve.

And who selects the Chairman?

I can't say Bush is the absolute worst. I do know he has run our country into a recession, but it was bound to happen somewhat. Things were booming too much. I think his foreign policy has left us isolated (Run, there is a huge difference between respected and feared). The only time he really had much approval from me was during the invasion of Afghanistan.

I hope our next President puts some emphasis on the economy because we are in for a serious problem if not.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2008, 11:09:33 am »

We might be liked less, but we're probably respected more... 

Anything you can pop up here to support this particular statement? Frankly, it's the only part of that post that I disagreed with. Maybe if you replaced the word "respected" with the word "feared," it might make more sense. Wink

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2008, 01:17:03 pm »

Ok this will probably end up being a hijack
I think first term I supported him,then during his second term everything we "thought " he was doing that was good...proved to be shit.....

Do I agree with him now,No...But in the same Breath,the Last elections the Democrats were elected to stop Bush,and to help curb the mistakes...and yet to do shit.....

Hillary is trying make it sound like,"Remember the 90's under my husband? That's what it will be like with me...." That scares me We're living in a different world,different problems,and you're going to ignore problems until they come back an bite us in the ass?

Is Obama different? Or will bend to the will of the party?

Is John McCain ..... Bush the third term?

I hate to use Jesse the Body Ventura,but he was sort of right in my mind...I think it needs to be someone not of the republican,or democrats....
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2008, 02:34:40 pm »

I think first term I supported him,then during his second term everything we "thought " he was doing that was good...
Exactly.

Bush is doing exactly what the majority of us wanted him to do.  He hasn't changed, we have.  "Yeah - let's kick ass!!!  Go get 'em!!!  It's got to be done!  USA! USA! USA! .... What?  They're shooting real bullets at us?  It's not over yet?  Well, just bring 'em home then."
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