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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2008, 12:38:32 pm »

We could actually use a forum for political as well as religion as some threads need to be dumped there.  I particuly don't care for the political and believe it or not, I ignore some of the religious barbs.  When I see Christianity directly attacked I feel compelled to speak but even I don't speak up every time as I know it is useless .... at least to most of those in the post.  I have received some very nice responses and questions behind the scenes and that is why I feel most compelled do it.

But up to 10,000 people may be dead in Myanmar,and we've had a simple yes or no should porn be banned turn into a thread on slavery,weight loss,and lifestyles.....

It wasn't to call anyone person out....It's just something I notcied...When there are a couple of political/religion threads...There is a whole group of people that damn near quit posting.....I also feel like it drags the boards down....

I don't feel a political or religious section  is needed, to me,that's just catering to a hand full of people....
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2008, 12:44:21 pm »

we've had a simple yes or no should porn be banned turn into a thread on slavery,weight loss,and lifestyles.....


It's not a simple yes or no question, B. 

"Do you view porn" is a yes or no question.  "Yes, I love porn."  Boom, there it is.

The question on taking away something that, right or wrong, has become a staple society the world over isn't so cut and dry.  Of course it's going to go all over the board.  Whether it should be banned or not is going to draw out conversation that circles around so many things: our rights, religious stances, moral ones, lines that would be blurred in regards to where 'banning' ends.
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2008, 12:51:13 pm »



I don't feel a political or religious section  is needed, to me,that's just catering to a hand full of people....

But if there was a forum to express these kind of things it would help to contain them ... but not eliminate them. 

I agree with Maine in the fact you never know where a thread will go because the basics for most arguements go back to morals and personal freedoms and where each individual sees the "normal" line.  I also agree with you that many times it turns into a back and forth argument that most people don't care to read. Without a plac to seperate these threads from the others ... I don't see any way around them.
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2008, 01:07:29 pm »

Maine it is a simple yes or no question.....it is a simple question....Should Porn be completely banned?

It's everyone trying to prove they're smart,there are plenty of responses in there,that aren't 2-3 paragraphs about their beliefs....

And Cf, I feel like people should show some restraint,and go,is this something that most everyone on the board might find interesting? or Do I just have a point to make.....

Modified to add.....If you start a religion,political thread section...,You might as well break it down,and make a section about movies and music..and another one for art,and another one for help.......You lose the community feel of our board....
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2008, 01:40:00 pm »

Maine it is a simple yes or no question.....it is a simple question....Should Porn be completely banned?


B - if it's that simple than answer the question.  Keep in mind that if you are answering 'yes' you need to spell out why you are altering this:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

If your answer is anything other than "no" than there is a "why?" attached to it.  It's become more than a "yes or no" question and I certainly don't feel it's folks trying to flex their brain pans.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2008, 02:10:41 pm »

That's fine but even here this is what bothers the hell out of me...This thread is about disagreement...Not the thread should porn be banned....and you're bring the views of the thread on here...The question was simple..
The issue may not have been....You have people arguing Slavery,and wieghtloss,and other issues....not Porn...

This issue comes up every year during the offseason...With the political threads...

This coming from the moderator that has a topic at the top saying...Please keep all topics on thread,and has a set of rules at the top of his thread,coming here and saying I feel it's it's OK if topics go off topic and go to a different direction.....

I'm trying to point out..that the 3 or 4 people that keep posting back and forth posting articles to support this or that,or dragging the argument into totally different topics....Tend to bore everyone else,And other people tend to shy away from the board.....
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2008, 02:23:11 pm »

Tend to bore everyone else,And other people tend to shy away from the board.....
You know I got nothing but love for ya...

...but don't give us any bullshit about caring about people shying away from the board when not one moderator commented about the "Fuck the Pope with a rusty screwdriver" comment. 
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2008, 02:36:24 pm »

...but don't give us any bullshit about caring about people shying away from the board when not one moderator commented about the "Fuck the Pope with a rusty screwdriver" comment. 

From a moderation standpoint, there's nothing against forum policy about that statement.  No action needed to be taken.  It's personal attacks on each other that we don't allow...attacks on religious figureheads/politicians/players are fine.
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2008, 02:36:54 pm »

I also didn't get any complaints about the comment,  Wink I've not gotten any complaints on my avatar flipping the bird.....

But Run,you've been around here long enough to see when there are 2 or 3 threads that are political,or religious...and become 3-4 pages long...Very few new topics pop up,It seems to be the same 3-5 people arguing in the thread.....I also understand there are a lot of people on here that don't come here for the football side of it,but enjoy the off board,and community feel of the board.....
That's I do care about.....I mean there are days I don't want to come here,I go to other websites,with my limited time throughout the day.....

and yes,I do have alot of shit going on.....So my fuse is shorter than normal....


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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2008, 02:41:25 pm »

I feel like political and religious threads add depth to the boards.  I don't think I would frequent as often if all topics were "whats your favorite bread for a sandwich" or "whats your favorite color?"  Even though I may be one of those 5 people you mention, I'm sure there are a lot more who just read and take in what everyone is saying without any input.
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« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2008, 02:43:22 pm »

I have to say I enjoy the back and forth debating to a point.  If I become bored, I stop reading that thread.  The "what's your favorite" threads are the ones that are boring to me.
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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2008, 02:49:20 pm »

I have to say I enjoy the back and forth debating to a point.  If I become bored, I stop reading that thread. 
No no no!  Haven't you been paying attention?  When you get bored you're supposed to ask everyone else to stop.   Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2008, 02:50:23 pm »

I'm bored with this thread.  Everyone should stop posting in it.  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2008, 02:56:36 pm »

You have people arguing Slavery,and wieghtloss,and other issues....not Porn...

I do, huh?  Really?  Weird, Lil B --- I believe the only thing I did was take Sunstroke's comments about obese people and make a point.

If you're going to throw around flaming daggers at people how about throwing them accurately?  Because my stance held hands with the original one and I didn't say a %$##% thing about SLAVERY.  Or LOSING WEIGHT.

Try reading what people wrote before attacking someone.  I didn't bring up the obese thing.  Someone else did.  My point was on task with the discussion at hand - and it wasn't off topic what-so-ever.  If you are going to ban porn, as Stroke said, where do you stop? 

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« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2008, 03:01:54 pm »

I do, huh?  Really?  Weird, Lil B --- I believe the only thing I did was take Sunstroke's comments about obese people and make a point.

If you're going to throw around flaming daggers at people how about throwing them accurately?  Because my stance held hands with the original one and I didn't say a %$##% thing about SLAVERY.  Or LOSING WEIGHT.

Try reading what people wrote before attacking someone.  I didn't bring up the obese thing.  Someone else did.  My point was on task with the discussion at hand - and it wasn't off topic what-so-ever.  If you are going to ban porn, as Stroke said, where do you stop? 

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Geez, Lil B must be acting like me too. 
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