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« on: May 16, 2008, 04:47:44 pm »

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8146886?MSNHPHMA

Sources: NFL owners consider voiding CBA
by JAY GLAZER and ALEX MARVEZ, FOXSports.com

Updated: May 16, 2008, 3:15 PM EST 27 comments

The NFL's Collective Bargaining Agreement, as it now stands, may be a short-lived deal.

What it all means
Confused by the details of the NFL labor agreement? Fear not. Alex Marvez tells you what will happen — and what won't — if owners decide to opt out of the CBA. Check it out Here: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8146990/If-owners-opt-out-of-CBA,-what-will-happen?

In a series of conference calls this week, NFL owners have seriously discussed voiding the current labor agreement, FOXSports.com has learned. Team owners believe the current labor agreement, which gives players 59 percent of the defined gross revenues, is too lopsided in favor of the NFLPA.

The opt-out could come at Tuesday's spring meeting. According to one source, those on the phone calls discussed pulling the trigger as early as next week because it's the beginning of the league's down time.

Only nine votes from NFL owners are needed to abort the CBA in 2011 rather than 2013.

"It's hard to predict Tuesday that [owners] are going to nuke the CBA," a high-ranking team executive told FOXSports.com. "I don't think that's accurate right now, but the subject is going to come up whether this is a better time than in November. There's a broad concern that [the NFL] doesn't want this to become a focus that takes away from the regular season.

"Everyone agrees that we want to maintain a strong, competitive league. There is a mindset that this is a step along the way that helps clarify things. It seems rather obvious the league is going to opt out. Rather than have that looming, let's get that behind us, roll up our sleeves and get to work on a new CBA."

Should the owners in fact make the move next week, it would dramatically alter the NFL's landscape for the next few years. Such a significant move would make the 2009 campaign the last year in which the salary cap is in effect. 2010 would be uncapped. The NFL would also still have a draft in 2011, but beyond that everything else would be up in the air.

The owners have until November 8th to void the current agreement.

"I think deadlines are helpful in trying to get things resolved," commissioner Roger Goodell said at April's NFL owners meeting. "Any time a deadline can be established to force us into reaching an agreement on a particularly issue, that's helpful to us."

Calls for comment to both the Commissioner's office and NFL Players Association head Gene Upshaw on Friday have not yet been returned. However, Upshaw and upper NFLPA management are expected in Atlanta, which could lead to CBA dialogue.

The NFL and the players association have renewed the CBA five times, the most recent coming in March 2006. In that vote, the owners ratified the agreement by a 30-2 count, extending the labor deal through the 2011 season.

"The objective is to get a labor agreement, one that works for both parties," Goodell said last month. "That's what we're working towards. Obviously as part of planning we have to look at various alternatives. The reality is, and I think the union understands this, and we certainly understand this, you can grow your business better if you're in partnership. That's what having labor peace helps you do. That's one of the things we clearly understand. I believe the union fully agrees with that. That's what we're going to continue to try to do."

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 05:14:14 pm »

If 2010 is going to be uncapped, then the four teams that made it to the conference title game in 2009 can't sign a free agent unless they lose one.... and then they can only offer up to the same amount of money that the player they lost is getting from his new team.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 10:47:30 am »

The Owners opted out of the CBA this morning

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/05/owners_cba_deci.html
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 11:47:43 am »

I love it!!! I hate salary cap football. The NFL is a mediorce product. Hopefully the owners stick to their guns.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 11:56:12 am »

They are already talking about a lockout in 2011, this better not happen.
Football became the number one sport after baseball went on strike, if they are smart the league and union better fix this before 2011.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2008, 06:09:28 am »

One thing to consider:

The players would have some pretty serious strength in the case of a strike. The reason is simple: DEBT.

A lot of NFL franchises have a really serious amount of debt and the current economic conditions make it harder to borrow money at "reasonable" interest rates. This is probably the reason the owners opted out in the first place (running a franchise now is MUCH more expensive than it was just a couple of years ago, even disregarding the explosion in player salaries). An economic downturn also hurts sales of merchandise and may seriously hurt negotiations for the upcoming TV deals (the DirecTV deal expires in 2010, for example).

The Dolphins are actually a fairly debt-heavy team (7th in 2006 according to Forbes) in terms of debt relative to franchise value (27%). Teams with upcoming builds (stadiums and the like) will see costs (and debt) skyrocket.. and some teams were already in dangerous territory (Falcons, Lions and Vikings were all around 40% debt in 2006).

There's a real risk that some teams would simply fold if the players went on strike.

It's also worth noting that although the owners' vote was unanimous, it only took 9 votes to force the opt-out. Once it was clear that the 9 votes were present, there was no incentive for ANY owner to vote the other way, since a unanimous front would strengthen their bargaining position with the NFLPA.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2008, 06:53:20 am »

One thing to consider:

The players would have some pretty serious strength in the case of a strike. The reason is simple: DEBT.

A lot of NFL franchises have a really serious amount of debt and the current economic conditions make it harder to borrow money at "reasonable" interest rates. This is probably the reason the owners opted out in the first place (running a franchise now is MUCH more expensive than it was just a couple of years ago, even disregarding the explosion in player salaries). An economic downturn also hurts sales of merchandise and may seriously hurt negotiations for the upcoming TV deals (the DirecTV deal expires in 2010, for example).

The Dolphins are actually a fairly debt-heavy team (7th in 2006 according to Forbes) in terms of debt relative to franchise value (27%). Teams with upcoming builds (stadiums and the like) will see costs (and debt) skyrocket.. and some teams were already in dangerous territory (Falcons, Lions and Vikings were all around 40% debt in 2006).

There's a real risk that some teams would simply fold if the players went on strike.

It's also worth noting that although the owners' vote was unanimous, it only took 9 votes to force the opt-out. Once it was clear that the 9 votes were present, there was no incentive for ANY owner to vote the other way, since a unanimous front would strengthen their bargaining position with the NFLPA.

The impact would vary by teams, but many NFL teams have an adv. over baseball in the case of a strike. 

If there is a strike I doubt many games would be canceled, replacements would be brought in and the games would be played.

For many teams this would mean the same ticket revenue.  The waiting list for season tickets for the Pats, Colts, Packers etc. is just too long to give up your season tickets because you don't want to watch replacement players.  Teams such as the Bills, Jax, SD would be hurt ticket sale wise. 

Right now the teams spend the majority of their revenue on salaries.  It is quite possible that lower revenues would be more than offset by having player playing at the rookie league min.   
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2008, 10:38:32 am »

Goddell is looking into dropping one preseason game, and adding a week 17 to the schedule. Why can't the NFL let preseason start one week earlier ?
Any thoughts ?
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 11:00:52 am »

Goddell is looking into dropping one preseason game, and adding a week 17 to the schedule. Why can't the NFL let preseason start one week earlier ?
Any thoughts ?

That won't solve the problem.  The problem is pre-season games suck.  The theory by having less pre-season games, the starters will play in a higher % of the reps. 
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