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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008, 12:52:56 am »

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2008/08/pennington-agre.html?cid=125800184#comment-125800184

Chad Pennington agrees to deal with Dolphins

The Dolphins have agreed to a multi-year contract with former Jets quarterback Chad Pennington, according to two NFL sources.

Pennington is expected to fly to South Florida Saturday or early Sunday, meaning he might be present when the team plays the Tampa Bay Bucs in its preseason opener at Dolphin Stadium. That assumes Pennington passes his physical.

Terms of the deal are not immediately available, although Foxsports.com, which first reported the story, says it is a two-year deal. The Dolphins are neither confirming or denying the report, which is code for it is true.

So this much is certain: It is hard to see a Dolphins team with Pennington, Josh McCown and John Beck on the roster. One of those latter two will be gone soon.

It is possible the Dolphins will try to trade either McCown or Beck once the coaching staff is convinced Pennington is better. That may not take very long. The Dolphins, I am told, didn't give Pennington any guarantees he would be the starter the entire season, but expect him to be the starter in the regular-season opener versus ... the New York Jets.

This move, by the way, is frought with contradiction.

The team spent the entire offseason ignoring starting-caliber talent in free agency simply because some of the players were over 30 years old. The idea was to sign players that would still be in their primes in three or four years when the team came out of the talent darkness it is currently in. Pennington, 32, is not likely to still be around then and his contract confirms that.

So what gives? If you want to upgrade the QB spot, this moves does that. Great! But then the question becomes if you decided to break your own rules on the QB position, why didn't Bill Parcells upgrade the other areas of need with veterans? You cannot have it both ways.

Either the Dolphins were wrong at the beginning of free agency by not adding high-caliber vets then or are showing their desperation now by adding Pennington.

One can make the argument the Dolphins are brining in Pennington to upgrade but also to mentor Chad Henne. Well, they also could have signed Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca, also 32, to upgrade the offensive line and mentor players such as Donald Thomas, Justin Smiley and Jake Long. They might have tried to sign Randy Moss to upgrade the receivers corps and mentor Ted Ginn Jr.

If the argument is made for Pennington, it can apply to the other positions, otherwise the Dolphins are showing they have no long-term plan they will stick with. Either they are building with youth or they are not. Either they are going all-out to acquire the best available players, no matter what their age, or they are not.

This addition also shows that the entire offseason of working with Beck and McCown was at least, in part, a failure. They both threw some 5,000 passes with Miami coaches in the offseason and the team was confident they were good enough to compete for a starting job.

So what does the team do after the first two weeks of training camp? It looks to Quincy Carter as a possible option at quarterback when no other team would even give him a workout and then chases Pennington despite the fact he was just discarded by the Jets.

Makes me wonder how the agenda can change so quickly. Makes me wonder if this isn't something of a return to the days of double-minded personnel acquisition.

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008, 02:00:51 am »

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/634818.html

A healthy Pennington is Dolphins' best option

BY GREG COTE
Miami Herald


Here's something you wouldn't have believed even a few days ago: Jets at Dolphins, a duel of two bad football teams, will be the most intriguing game in the country when the NFL opens its regular season in slightly less than a month.

All-time great quarterback Brett Favre unretiring and turning up as a New York Jet earlier this week cinched it.

Ex-Jets QB Chad Pennington signing with the Dolphins on Friday night guaranteed it beyond debate.

Miami has signed the sudden free-agent Pennington to a two-year deal for $11.5 million -- starter's money -- and it is a bizarre happenstance, one that might make a Dolphins fans want to raise his fist in triumph and shake his head in bewilderment, all at once, not knowing for sure just how to feel.

The acquisition of Pennington, 32, tells us several things as the Dolphins prepare to open their preseason schedule this evening at home vs. Tampa Bay.

It tells us for certain that Josh McCown, the veteran journeyman signed this offseason to serve as a stopgap starter in case the kids weren't ready, failed. Wasn't good enough. He's gone. Dead man passing.

It verifies that rookie Chad Henne -- still your best bet in the quarterback of the future sweepstakes -- isn't ready in 2008, needing a year unrushed, time to learn, a season to marinate.

It says, as if there were much doubt left, that second-year guy John Beck no longer has a career in Miami and will soon be trying to resuscitate it somewhere else.

Signing Pennington makes sense in the sense he clearly is better and more accomplished than McCown. When healthy, Pennington is an accurate passer with an impressive 82-55 touchdowns-to-interceptions ratio and an equally impressive 88.9 career passer rating.

Unfortunately ''when healthy'' is a sticking point. He has played all 16 games in only one season in his career. Safe to say Jets fans are not mourning his departure. He was 1-7 as a starter last year before being benched.

But signing Pennington also makes one wonder what the Dolphins blueprint is at quarterback.

I wrote a month ago that Miami should pursue Favre and by the reaction to the column it was as if I'd volunteered myself as spokesman for the Flat Earth Society. ''We're rebuilding!'' went the cry.

So now what?

The nemesis, division-rival Jets have the all-time great quarterback who has not missed a game in 16 years and is coming off a great season.

And the Dolphins have the injury-prone guy coming off a bad year.

Pennington (though better than McCown) is a continuation of what the Dolphins have had ever since Dan Marino retired in 1999. He is Jay Fiedler. He is Joey Harrington. He is Gus Frerotte. Better, in some way, but the same.

He is a temp.

He is a bridge.

And we are still not confidently sure what is waiting on the other side.

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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008, 07:19:55 am »

Thank god!! Now we have a chance to win some games!!!
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008, 08:07:36 am »

I like the move of signing Pennington, but $11.5 million?

Hopefully most of it is backloaded
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2008, 08:10:05 am »

I like the move of signing Pennington, but $11.5 million?

Hopefully most of it is backloaded

Actually a good chunk of that is incentive based, which is how it should be.... gives him a reason to perform.
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2008, 08:34:03 am »

Hope he does great here, but I gotta say his arm strength (or lack thereof) scares me more than just a bit. 
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2008, 09:32:53 am »

I love the fact that we have people making just about every sinlge assumtion possible in articles. We need to bookmark this post and give credit to the winner of whoever hits the most assumtions in the media.
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2008, 10:27:15 am »

This is an excellent move in my opinion.  I like the two year deal and reports that it is incentive based.  If Beck does well in preseason, I would like him to stay and get some play time.  But Pennington is a solid player and great insurance policy if Beck isn't able to get it going. 

When it is all said and done, Pennington is better than any QB we have right now.  We have young guys that may develop into something more, but in right now he is better.  Besides, we get some awesome inside info into what the Jets are doing.

I am definitely pleased that this worked out and very shocked that he is actually going to be on the team!
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2008, 11:02:23 am »

I have never liked Pennington.  

Odd as it sounds, I have always like Pennington.  I view him a lot like Tom Brady.  The Jets haven't exactly had the best coaches and talent around this guy, I'm pretty excited about this.
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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2008, 11:19:40 am »


And just like that, my most improbable prediction of "John Beck has started his last game for the Dolphins" has almost become a lock.

Not that I'm happy about having linguini arm as Miami's QB... but anyone that we could possibly get would be better than having Beck out there.

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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2008, 12:25:59 pm »

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2008/08/09/does_pennington_fit_the_dolphi.html

Does Pennington fit the Dolphins’ plan?

By Edgar Thompson | Saturday, August 9, 2008, 09:03 AM

The day before the Dolphins grabbed Chad Pennington, Bill Parcells said he’s been focused on a youth movement in Miami.

The Tuna wasn’t sure if Pennington, 32 and owner of a right shoulder with a lot of mileage on it, fit the bill.

If this comment was one of Parcells’ smokescreens, it wasn’t really necessary because by Friday afternoon pretty much every team in dire need of a QB (Chiefs, Bears, Vikings) had expressed modest if no interest in Pennington.

Even so, the Dolphins apparently weren’t going to let someone sneak in and get him, signing Pennington to a 2-year, $11.5 million deal on Friday night.

The move set off a wave of reaction from Dolfans, much of it negative.

Many have said Pennington is another Gus Frerotte, Daunte Culpepper or Trent Green - a recycled quarterback whose better years are behind him.

Some like the move because Pennington is an accurate, intelligent, move-the-chains guy who fits in with the Dolphins’ plan for a power running game.

All fans wonder about Pennington’s arm because the Dolphins will need to keep the defense honest and have speed on the outside with Ted Ginn Jr.

Pennington needed two shoulder surgeries in 2005 and didn’t have a big arm prior to that.

My former colleague, Tim Graham, now of ESPN.com, dug up some interesting numbers on Pennington’s ability to go down field. A 107.7 passer rating on 108 throws of 20 yards or longer doesn’t seem to be a statistical anomaly, but it’ll still be interesting to watch Pennington go deep.

Some just don’t like the move because he’s a former Jet.

Any way you look at it, Pennington’s signing isn’t a best-case scenario for a franchise that’s started a dozen QBs since Dan Marino retired eight seasons ago.

(By the way, who saw how Brady Quinn went 13-of-17 on Friday night? Chalk another one in the loss column for the Cam Cameron-Randy Mueller regime.)

But watching John Beck and Josh McCown struggle with decision-making and turnovers during two weeks of training camp, the Pennington move makes some sense.

Chad Henne shows flashes, but he isn’t the answer quite yet.

Do you think Dolphins should have just made do with what they have or do you like the idea of a likely upgrade, even if it’s a short-term one?

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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2008, 12:28:56 pm »

I agree...prolly looking like it'll be Pennington and Henne 1 2 for the next few years....as a dolphins fan living in new jersey i've ripped on pennington for years and i still dont know how i feel about this signing....

Yes, he is a leader

Yes he can manage the field and be very accurate while doing it


but it's no secret that he can't throw the long ball....so what does that do with ted ginn?  his speed is not gonna be utilized the way every hoped it would be by making him a number one pick
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2008, 12:31:15 pm »

Odd as it sounds, I have always like Pennington. 

Me too, but I am probably a bit biased since I am from West Virginia. Marshall was a tough small school during his era.
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2008, 01:03:03 pm »

(By the way, who saw how Brady Quinn went 13-of-17 on Friday night? Chalk another one in the loss column for the Cam Cameron-Randy Mueller regime.)

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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2008, 01:20:13 pm »



Fins: Pennington (how long?)

Chad Pennington signed a two-year contract.

That doesn't mean he will be here for two years.

He is 32 years old, which is two years younger than Gus Frerotte was during the season Frerotte started here, and five years younger than Trent Green was last season.

Like Green and Daunte Culpepper, he comes here with an injury concern.

He has accomplished more than Josh McCown, Joey Harrington or A.J. Feeley.

And at least Bill Parcells hasn't reached out to Vinny Testaverde or Drew Bledsoe.... yet.

If he's healthy, Pennington starts the opener. There isn't much question about that. He might even have some success, though I wonder whether he can stretch the field enough to get that extra defensive back out of the box -- and off of the backs of Ronnie and Ricky.

The question is how long he should start, even if he has success.

Parcells recently told Lesley Visser (in an interview on CBS4) that he wanted to build a young team that can grow together.

So, even if Pennington does some decent things and wins a few games, this is still about getting Chad Henne ready to lead the franchise.

What's your view?

If Pennington proves to be a serviceable starter, how long do you wait on Henne?

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Also, for those who didn't download the audio file, here were Phil Simms' thoughts on Pennington:

"Yeah, I do think he’d be a good fit. I’ve been a pretty big Chad Pennington fan over the years. I’m not going to say I was at first….. He knows how to play. And it’s amazing, once you get a label in anything -- in the National Football League or anything -- it’s hard to shake those labels…. His arm is definitely stronger than he is given credit for. And it is strong enough to compete, to win games in the National Football League. And he can throw in a stadium like down in Miami, because it does get windy and rainy, and he handles that stuff very well."

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