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« on: October 11, 2008, 01:51:19 pm »

Not that anyone here really cares but..........I will be Voting for Barack Obama.  Indifferent

I'm about 98% sure and off the fence anyways.

I didn't come to this conclusion from any of the arguments here on this site, from any personal attacks made on the personal lives of the candidates or any personal agendas like religion, abortion or who you choose to bang. McCains biggest challenge this election was GW Bush and his Ghost. I don't want to lay it all at GW's feet , Clinton and Al Gore Helped all the outsourcing along by signing that NAFTA agreement , but GW inherited it and basically did nothing to correct the direction we were headed. Did nothing to help slow down the boom of the early 2000's that blew up like a water balloon and popped in our faces.

But this weekend something amazing happened. Fuel Dropped from$3.60 a gallon to $3.19 yesterday to $3.09 today.  They say it will be back to $2.00 by Thanksgiving.  Indifferent

Good news right!!?   Maybe. But it shows me that this government had the ability to do that all along. But instead let mega Fuel corporations post record years with 70-80 Billion in in profits. It took the worst week in the History of Wall street for them to say.......ok, you made your money. Now Give the American People a break. Lower that shit to $2.00 so we can get this economy going again.

Now I know that John McCain is not GW Bush. I love the man and admire him greatly. I wish He was nominated back in 96 instead of that Turd Dole or GW Bush in 2000, but he wasn't. Times have changed since then and people are hurting.

In my Job I meet lots of different people everyday. People passing through , Upper society and the common Folk. Everyone is in the same boat right now.

Let me share a story with you. This fight happened recently in a local dinner where everyone frequents :
 This was out of my local paper.......names and places are taken out to protect the innocent. (ME)   Wink

 
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— If you think the back-and-forth between the candidates is getting ugly, presidential politics got downright physical here Thursday evening, according to a report released Friday by the  ***********Police Department.

The report states that about 7:20 p.m. Thursday two diners in back-to-back booths of a restaurant in the 2000 block of  ****** *******  were arguing about the upcoming presidential election when one turned away and said he “didn’t need to hear it anymore.”

At that point one of the arguers, Johnny  ******* , of the 1300 block of  ***** *****  got out of his seat, grabbed the other arguer by his head “and slammed it into the wall, causing a minor laceration with bleeding to the back of the victim’s head.”

 **** ****  was charged with simple battery. The report didn’t give the men’s political affiliations. 


I'll give the political affiliations, The guy that did the slamming is a Republican  and the guy that got his head slammed in is a known Democrat in the area.  The slammer is a hard working family man that grew up in the area. He's helped me and others many times during the hurricanes to help rebuild after the Storms 4 years ago. He recently had his home taken by the bank because construction is almost non existent.  The Person who got his Head slammed is a Local ex real estate investor/Banker (Democrat) He told my Friend that he shouldn't be eating out , that if he hadn't been so careless with his money he could afford the steak and eggs instead of the Bargain breakfast. He did this in front of his family.  He also told him He's not voting for Barack Obama (My buddy has a McSame bumper sticker on his truck) even though he is a Democrat. He would never vote for a N***er for President.  So My Buddy who served in operation Dessert Storm  and is a registered Republican Smashed his head against the Diner Booth.   

Now I had to come and pick up the pieces.   As big as an asshole as this guy is, you just can't go smashing someones skull in a Diner full of people. So I had to put my friend in handcuffs and take him to jail in front of his family.  His bail was posted in 2 hours by the owner of that same diner. People are seriously getting Fed up. I'm catching all the desperateness everytime I meet out with folks.






I know alot of people here don't like me because I speak my mind , but I have no agenda and I never meant to ever offend anyone. I do love to fool around a bit and my sense of humor can be a bit crass at times.........but I'm just not in the laughing mood this past week.   This economy is affecting every single American, every child, and the very future of this country.  As bad as 9/11 was, it was violent and just senseless and I don't mean to make light of the tragedy..........this is a far greater threat to our country and way of life then anything in this nations History.

While Barack Obama (I still want to slap his mother for naming him that Huh) is not perfect , who is? But I think he may be the best choice for the success of this country and the future for my 2 sons.  Unless McCain can come up with a 4th Quarter miracle Doug Flutie Hail Mary..........The Future for this country lies with Barack Obama.   Indifferent

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2008, 06:40:36 pm »

I think you're making the correct choice.  I hope beyond all things that he can bring the positive change that this country needs.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2008, 07:19:42 pm »

I believe this is the right choice too.  Gas had no business being this high, and Bush and his administration did nothing to stop it when they could have. 

Vote his entire party out of office. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2008, 08:49:28 pm »

I believe this is the right choice too.  Gas had no business being this high, and Bush and his administration did nothing to stop it when they could have. 

Vote his entire party out of office. 

So, Pelosi and the Democrats promising to lower gas prices was just an election ploy? You mean they lied to us? It was the democrats who refused to drill for a long time. But, sure. Lets blame it on Bush.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2008, 09:43:01 pm »

So, Pelosi and the Democrats promising to lower gas prices was just an election ploy? You mean they lied to us? It was the democrats who refused to drill for a long time. But, sure. Lets blame it on Bush.

Dude, give it up. EVEN DEFENSE freaking 5499 is voting for Obama (No offense, defense). At this juncture, Stephen A. Smith would say "IT'S OVA! IT'S OOOOOOVA!!!"

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2008, 11:22:18 pm »

^^^

Too late. I already voted absentee.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2008, 11:26:28 pm »

I think you're making the correct choice.  I hope beyond all things that he can bring the positive change that this country needs.
 Lets hope its only for 4 Yrs.

Socialism kicks Capitalism to the curb if it happens.  

If my understanding is correct.  He wants to remove guns from US citizens.

He wants to raise taxes & say he will give tax cuts to people, but he said that when he ran for the Senate, but never did it.

Wants the hard working people of America to pay for health care for everyone.   This will take America under & watch & see if people will be bitching about how the Gov will not let them have an operation.

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2008, 11:27:50 pm »

 Lets hope its only for 4 Yrs.

Socialism kicks Capitalism to the curb if it happens.  

If my understanding is correct.  He wants to remove guns from US citizens.

He wants to raise taxes & say he will give tax cuts to people, but he said that when he ran for the Senate, but never did it.

Wants the hard working people of America to pay for health care for everyone.   This will take America under & watch & see if people will be bitching about how the Gov will not let them have an operation.



They'll find some way to blame it on Bush.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2008, 11:31:09 pm »

They'll find some way to blame it on Bush.  Wink
I hear they think he is the gunman behind the grassy knolls.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2008, 12:40:50 am »

So Bush lowered gas prices right before the election?  That's interesting.

I still want to know who crashed the housing market, credit market, and stock market.

Did the Democrats purposely submarine the economy right before the election?  Or did the Republicans do it so they could attempt to use Obama's connections with ACORN to pull a rabbit out of the hat?

Didn't Osama Bin Laden claim that HE was going to destroy our economy?  Was it him, and if so, was he working alone or with one of the parties?  Which one?
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2008, 01:15:29 am »

Dude, give it up. EVEN DEFENSE freaking 5499 is voting for Obama (No offense, defense). At this juncture, Stephen A. Smith would say "IT'S OVA! IT'S OOOOOOVA!!!"

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you can add me to that list- but believe me- no one will ever convince me to vote for Obama
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2008, 02:05:31 am »

So, Pelosi and the Democrats promising to lower gas prices was just an election ploy? You mean they lied to us? It was the democrats who refused to drill for a long time. But, sure. Lets blame it on Bush.
Yes, because more drilling will make such a real and noticeable impact on gas prices!

Don't listen to that pinko commie Obama and his claims about checking your tire pressure.  Checking your tire pressure is a waste of time.  Drill, baby, drill!
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2008, 02:18:53 am »

Yes, because more drilling will make such a real and noticeable impact on gas prices!
I thought your side liked the higher gas prices because they force us to use less? 

What if it's not about gas prices but getting us more energy independent and keeping us out of the Middle East?

It would be helpful if more of the money spent on gas stayed in our economy instead of fueling others.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2008, 03:25:49 am »

Um, gas prices are tied to supply and demand.  Even if one sets aside all potential environmental issues, I fail to see how increasing supply is somehow preferable to reducing demand, particularly when the reduction in demand is more significant (from an extra-fuel-saved-vs-extra-fuel-produced standpoint).

If the goal is to get us more energy independent, how is "drill, baby, drill!" a solution?  Gee, if we're still addicted to oil 30 years from now, this extra drilling will lower gas prices about a nickel?  Joy.

I have no problem with long-term solutions, but if we're expected to undertake a project with that kind of timetable for realized benefits, it had better be something that helps us use LESS oil, not something that provides more oil to use.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2008, 11:10:47 am »

I'm not blaming Bush for it all...........But jeez, you gotta admit he didn't do much to correct it did he? What got me was as soon as the economy took a shit, not just the upcoming election, but it took the worst 1 week in the history of wall street for them to say OK, here ya go..........Lets bring the Fuel Prices down.  They had the power all along and they didn't do it. Why? Because it served them and people they are in bed with rather then US.  That's why I vote for people, to serve for US. What got me on the Fence was I know McCain is a good man with his own mind.........but even he has been swayed by others (example: The Palin fiasco)  to make bad decisions already. 
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