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« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2008, 04:03:27 pm »

This is, of course, a verified statistical fact, not just some imaginary unsupported urban legend.  And it most certainly does not rely upon things like comparing the number of 1992 Cadillac Sevilles in the projects to number of 2007 Toyota Camrys in middle class neighborhoods, because that would be absurd.

OK maybe the numbers vary but why should someone driving a $40,000 vehicle need government assistance?  This is not urban legend and is quite common.  I mean shouldn't I be able to get welfare so I can get a new mack daddy pick up truck too? The fact I actually have a job and work should not stop the government from helping me.

If you would like to come to Sanford I would certainly be glad to take you on a tour of Castle Brewer, Lake Monroe Terrace, William Clark Court or one of our many white trash trailer parks to display some of our finer automobiles.  I don't need statistics or racist propaganda.  I live it.

Our government spends way too much of other peoples money on people who abuse it.  It's kind of funny that people like Joe Biden refuse to donate to charity but want us tax payers to cough up the goods.

I give more to the Orlando Rescue Mission, Compassion International, my local radio ministry and my church in six months than Biden has donated in ten years.  Ten freaking years!!!!   $2,450,042  in revenue but only $3,690 in charitable donations over 10 years. This is on his tax returns!!!

This is the kind of people telling us they want more of our money to give away.  Yes this is absolutely baffling to me!!!
 

The people wanting the most are usually the ones who give the least.
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« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2008, 04:11:13 pm »

OK maybe the numbers vary but why should someone driving a $40,000 vehicle need government assistance?  This is not urban legend and is quite common.  I mean shouldn't I be able to get welfare so I can get a new mack daddy pick up truck too? The fact I actually have a job and work should not stop the government from helping me.

You can be poor as shit and still drive a nice car.  It's called "ghetto rich".  (There's another name for it that isn't worth repeating here.)

Some people don't spend money wisely.  They have no wealth, but they have riches.  You can lease a car.  You can rent a crappy apartment, have no insurance, no retirement, no savings...but still have a nice car. 
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« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2008, 04:28:56 pm »

You can be poor as shit and still drive a nice car.  It's called "ghetto rich".  (There's another name for it that isn't worth repeating here.)

Some people don't spend money wisely.  They have no wealth, but they have riches.  You can lease a car.  You can rent a crappy apartment, have no insurance, no retirement, no savings...but still have a nice car. 

I know the saying.  ANd if you spend your money on a $40,000 dollar car and rent a $200 a month government apartment or a $2000 trailer you do not deserve welfare plain and simple.  These aren't people I suspect. I grea up with them. I work with them.  I eat with them.And embarrasing enough ...  I am related to them. 

Somehow I think most of you guys get your vision of the world from Cosby and HBO. Work in a soup kichen for a weekend and then go back next week. Do it over and over and eventually you will see two types of people. One are people who are down on their luck and the other is people taking advantage of whatever they can get. Unfortunately the latter its the biggest portion and we make that group even larger by enabling them. 

Every person who can see a color isn't racist and every person who is poor isn't trying to get ahead.  It's comfoting to many people to not to have responsibilities and have others to care for them.  They work a little while and back on the system. The largest portion being lazy arse young white women.


I will give you the shirt off my back but I have no tolerence for a lazy person that will not work and takes advantage of the system.
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« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2008, 04:38:56 pm »

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$2,450,042  in revenue but only $3,690 in charitable donations over 10 years. This is on his tax returns!!!

i'd just like to point out that when i give money to charities (and i have) i have never once claimed it as a deduction in my taxes

biden could just as easily have donated 10,000 a year each and every year and just not claimed the tax deduction .. just a thought
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« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2008, 06:24:31 pm »

i'd just like to point out that when i give money to charities (and i have) i have never once claimed it as a deduction in my taxes

biden could just as easily have donated 10,000 a year each and every year and just not claimed the tax deduction .. just a thought

Yeh ...  Ok Fau.  No offense but we're talking tens of thousands of dollars and not $20 win they pass the plate or he walks by a Santa ringing the bell.  He couldn't have donated that quietly and not claimed if he had wanted to.
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« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2008, 07:39:39 pm »

This seems perfectly logical to me.  For starters, you never really stop learning English.  And, the younger you are, the easier you pick up language.  And I believe that learning both side by side helps you learn both better...is that not the case?
  This is what I'm saying.   They are determining that my kid learn Spanish.  What if I do not want my kid to learn Spanish?
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« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2008, 07:41:18 pm »

Should your kids be eligible for vouchers for private schools if the value of your annual tax payments is less than the value of the vouchers?
  Not quite sure I following 100%.  How about an example.
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« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2008, 07:43:12 pm »

Some people don't spend money wisely.   
  True, but those are the ones who we generally are providing assistants too.
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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2008, 08:17:13 pm »

Our government spends way too much of other peoples money on people who abuse it.  It's kind of funny that people like Joe Biden refuse to donate to charity but want us tax payers to cough up the goods.

I give more to the Orlando Rescue Mission, Compassion International, my local radio ministry and my church in six months than Biden has donated in ten years.  Ten freaking years!!!!   $2,450,042  in revenue but only $3,690 in charitable donations over 10 years. This is on his tax returns!!!
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« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2008, 08:17:54 pm »

OK maybe the numbers vary but why should someone driving a $40,000 vehicle need government assistance?  This is not urban legend and is quite common.  I mean shouldn't I be able to get welfare so I can get a new mack daddy pick up truck too?
The workers at my local daycare can generally tell who pays out of their own pocket by the cars they drive.  It's a game some of the more tenured workers "play".  The nicer or more "pimped out" the car is the less likely that parent is paying their own way.

Those paying out of their own pocket the price for infants is $230 per week.  For younger school age children it's $175/week during the summer.  For those not paying their own way it's just a $25 monthly co-payment..

I too could afford one hell of a ride and pimp it out to the extreme if I was saving $700-$900 per month, per child, on daycare.
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« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2008, 08:20:16 pm »

This much is obvious to any sane citizen, because the enormous tax breaks given to oil companies during this administration have resulted in dramatic reductions in price at the pump.
Yeah, and now that oil/gas prices ARE falling the secret leader of OPEC, George W Bush, is going to have a secret meeting and get all the countries to cut production!  If that doesn't work then he'll just cook up another huge hurricane to rampage throught the gulf! 
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« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2008, 08:25:31 pm »

I believe that learning both side by side helps you learn both better...is that not the case?
Ideally, sure.

Realistically, "ESL" students are taught in their native language.  Learning English is not a priority.

Most kids who attend public school for more than a year or two pick up English just fine.  It's the adults who struggle/refuse to learn English.  Then they take the low paying jobs at every store and drive-thru and are close to worthless to the customers who aren't multi-lingual.
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« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2008, 08:26:45 pm »

What if I do not want my kid to learn Spanish?
Then you better hope it gets a white collar job.   Wink
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« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2008, 09:29:37 pm »

Realistically, "ESL" students are taught in their native language.  Learning English is not a priority.

If you are talking about public schools (in the state of Florida), this statement is then a total 100% Bullshit Lie. ESL / ESOL students are taught in 100% English. How do I know? I was placed in ESL / ESOL in high school, because guidance couselors and school administrators are absolute morons. There is absolutely no French, Creole, Spanish, or other language allowed in an ESL / ESOL class, and to take it further, neither is it allowed in a prep 1 or prep 2 class at a college / university.
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« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2008, 09:39:58 pm »

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How do I know? I was placed in ESL / ESOL in high school, because guidance counsellors and school administrators are absolute morons.

Yeah........your not special at all............. Roll Eyes
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