MLB hot stove/ Free agency

[stinkfish]

here we go again....

i hate the Yankees

Don't hate the Yankees, hate the salary capless MLB.

[SportsChick]

Oh, I hate the Yankees and it has nothing to do with money

[SCFinfan]

You know what I want for Christmas?

Manny getting a haircut in a NY barbershop, putting on pinstripes, and promising to hit about .500 w/ 20 homers against the Sox; all to the tune of about, oh, say 3 years for 35 mil.

And then, I'd like that promise to come true.

[MaineDolFan]

Manny signing with NY would be a disaster.


For everyone else.


I'm not sure how you approach that line up with Manny in it.

[Sunstroke]

Maybe the Yanks can give Robinson Cano and eleventy billion dollars to Philly and get Chase Utley too...

[stinkfish]

Didn't the Sox withdraw their offer from Tex, and walk away?

[MaineDolFan]

Not exactly.  Boston's offer was 8 years and $164 million and Henry and Theo told Borus "this is as high as we go, period."  Boras told them that he is expecting an offer of about $184 million and Boston brass said "you need to take that one then, we aren't going up on our offer."

The rumor is that when the Yankees offer came in Boras made one more call to Boston and Boston DID beat that contract, financially, but one million.  But then the Yankees came in with the full no-trade Boston won't give anyone a no trade.  Once that was determined the deal was sealed.

[stinkfish]

Manny signing with NY would be a disaster.


For everyone else.


I'm not sure how you approach that line up with Manny in it.

They don't even need him do they?

[EDGECRUSHER]

I always wondered how long Boston's "NO no-trade" policy has been in effect. Forever? Recently? What is the reason for it? I hate no-trade clauses, but if it can land you a great player, I can understand making exceptions.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Angels get the Yankees 1st rounder for Teixeira
Brewers get the Yankees 2nd rounder for Sabathia
Blue Jays get the Yankees 3rd rounder for Burnett

That sucks ass for the Brewers and Blue Jays. If they signed a guy like Manny or Varitek(both highly unlikely), would that mean Boston would get the Yankees 5th rounder, or do they just stop offering picks after the 3rd round?

[Dphins4me]

Angels get the Yankees 1st rounder for Teixeira
Brewers get the Yankees 2nd rounder for Sabathia
Blue Jays get the Yankees 3rd rounder for Burnett

What is this based on?  Basically how does it work?

[EDGECRUSHER]

If you offer a free agent arbitration and he declines to sign with another team, you get compensation picks to offset the loss. Players are ranked as Type A or B players, depending on their skill. It's basically whoever was in the top 10% of their position the last 2 years, that's why a guy like Varitek is a Type A because catcher is a weak position.

Type A guys gives you the signing teams first rounder plus a sandwich pick between the 1st and 2nd round. Type B is that team's 2nd rounder.

Unfortunately, when a team signs multiple Type A guys(like the Yankees), that means you have to go to their exact rankings(done by the Elias Sports Bureau) and see which team gets the best picks.

Teixeira was rated the highest out of all the free agents, mainly because he plays at 1B and is above almost every 1B in the game except Pujols and maybe one more. CC was second because while he is amazing, you can name about 4-5 better pitchers the past 2 years. Then there was AJ who was 3rd for obvious reasons.

So, the Blue Jays get banged out.

[MaineDolFan]

Boston is close to signing Penny to a 1 year deal.  Great signing - if healthy he's a legit ace. 

[bsfins]

http://blogs.weei.com/robbradford/
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1141749&srvc=home&position=1
Confirmed it's 1 year deal for Penny,Plus the Red sox also signed Free agent Catcher Josh Bard....

[EDGECRUSHER]

$5 Million guaranteed with $3 Million more in incentives. Very nice deal. Practically no downside, because if he sucks then you just don't pitch him. No commitment beyond a year. That's why I am so high on the Yankees with Pettitte, 1 year commitments can be great things in certain circumstances.