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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2008, 01:37:08 pm »

I am a liberal, and vote Democrat.

However, sometimes, I vote for a guy who I think is good, but not the best.  Gore was boring and didn't excite people.  Kerry was weak.  I agreed with them on major issues, however.

Obama, though, excites me.  I think he has the potential to be the next big name in American politics.  Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, etc.  I think he probably won't be able to fix everything, but that he will bring us a paradigm shift that we so sorely need and will be able to follow for the next 20 years.

I think back on big efforts -- Coming back after the depression, Creating the space program and going to the moon --  And how my generation doesn't have that big united push for a goal.  I think that green energy can be that new thing.  And I think that we need a leader with new ideas and support to get that done.

I am so excited for the prospect of Obama.  For those of you that think he's just another politician, I see it the other way.  I see multiple crowds of 100,000 and I think that this country needs that excitement to take on new challenges.  I am glad I got to say that I voted for him.
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2008, 01:48:18 pm »

^^^  Very well said.  My adult life ( although short ) has been filled with cynicism in regards to politics until now. 
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2008, 01:52:55 pm »

^^^  Very well said.  My adult life ( although short ) has been filled with cynicism in regards to politics until now. 

Agreed. Obama has me pumped. I think a politician that can get the people pumped is huge. Why? Because when people are pumped and see something other than status quo, they get active. People that weren't interested now are. That's how things get done in my opinion.
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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2008, 01:53:43 pm »

I am a liberal, and vote Democrat.

However, sometimes, I vote for a guy who I think is good, but not the best.  Gore was boring and didn't excite people.  Kerry was weak.  I agreed with them on major issues, however.

Obama, though, excites me.  I think he has the potential to be the next big name in American politics.  Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, etc.  I think he probably won't be able to fix everything, but that he will bring us a paradigm shift that we so sorely need and will be able to follow for the next 20 years.

I think back on big efforts -- Coming back after the depression, Creating the space program and going to the moon --  And how my generation doesn't have that big united push for a goal.  I think that green energy can be that new thing.  And I think that we need a leader with new ideas and support to get that done.

I am so excited for the prospect of Obama.  For those of you that think he's just another politician, I see it the other way.  I see multiple crowds of 100,000 and I think that this country needs that excitement to take on new challenges.  I am glad I got to say that I voted for him.

Or he can be the Next Jimmy Carter.   Indifferent
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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2008, 02:00:22 pm »

Or he can be the Next Jimmy Carter.   Indifferent

Not being facetious, but why was he a bad president? I was young and don't really know what he did wrong.
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2008, 02:10:27 pm »

Not being facetious, but why was he a bad president? I was young and don't really know what he did wrong.

Lets just say ...........Iran made a fool of him.  The country went into a huge energy crisis, unemployment was off the charts, it was the birth of outsourcing products.........and don't even get me started on Disco. But he was a nice guy so that made it allright.  Indifferent
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2008, 02:12:35 pm »

Until a major overhaul of the voting system occurs, I refuse to vote or participate in the election process. Our voting system is suited for 1850, and even for those times it probably sucks.

I want to log-in, enter in my name and SSN #, fill out an online ballot, hit "Submit" and be done with it in less than 5 minutes. There is no reason why this cannot occur. If you say "someone could hack it", tough shit - get some excellent programmers and security systems in place.

Until this happens, there is no way anyone of you can be guaranteed that your vote was counted or accurately tabulated. A 3.5% Margin of Error or more from any individual precinct is reprehensibly unacceptable.

NOT voting is what we need to be doing in order for the system to change. Voting in record numbers only guarantees the same broken, shitty, time-wasting, inaccurate voting systems are still used.


And what about people who don't use computers? It would be a non-inclusive method and leave absolutely no paper trails. Something tells me you would have something to complain about even if they adopted your idea.
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2008, 02:15:55 pm »

Not voting in order to change the way the system works is the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

Do you think that those who are getting in power via a shitty system are going to try and change that system?  No way.  Start voting for candidates that support voting reform, if you want to change.  They aren't going to come to you.
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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2008, 02:17:32 pm »

Not voting in order to change the way the system works is the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

Do you think that those who are getting in power via a shitty system are going to try and change that system?  No way.  Start voting for candidates that support voting reform, if you want to change.  They aren't going to come to you.

+1.  Stupid shit doesn't begin to describe it.  If you don't vote you need to STFU. Its that simple .
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2008, 02:23:08 pm »

Lets just say ...........Iran made a fool of him.  The country went into a huge energy crisis, unemployment was off the charts, it was the birth of outsourcing products.........and don't even get me started on Disco. But he was a nice guy so that made it allright.  Indifferent

Hey now, you can't blame disco on Jimmy Carter. He is a fan of the Allman Brothers Band and invited Willie Nelson to the White House.
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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2008, 02:58:56 pm »

Hey now, you can't blame disco on Jimmy Carter. He is a fan of the Allman Brothers Band and invited Willie Nelson to the White House.

I really liked Carter until recently. Being young and a democrat I always thought he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and Reagan scared the beJesus out of me.  After 8 years of Reagan I realized I was wrong on both fronts... though I still liked the peanut farmer from Ga. 

His recent foreign policy trips have me changing my mind. 

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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2008, 03:01:27 pm »

I am not thrilled with his recent foreign policy trips.  But he is a very decent honest man. 

Jimmy Carter may not have been the greatest president this country ever had, but he is the greatest man to have ever been this countries president.   
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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2008, 03:27:49 pm »

No you are one of the ones who have been repeatedly attacking Obama as much as the self admitted Repubs without equal ferocity against McCain. Also I have yet to see a clear indication in your posts that you were a decided third party voter, yet you make a huge proclemation covering all of us. Hell you even made a thread about the GOP being racist and then cherry picked which posts to respond too. That comes across as a real Libertarian there
  I like McCain over Obama.  I know more about him.  I know he supports me working for myself instead of me working for the Gov.  Plus, I do not want a full Dem control.

I cherry picked?  Which post did I not address that you felt I should have?

I've posted twice that I was voting ( voted ) for Barr.  How much more indication do you need?
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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2008, 03:33:52 pm »

GW goes down as one of the worst presidents in History. 
   He was horrible.  He has set this country back with his reign.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2008, 03:48:53 pm »

GW isn't the only person at fault for where we are today. It's a culmination of many bad decisions by both parties.  Remember he was re-elected so his popularity wasn't always this bad and still wouldn't be now if the housing market not crashed.     
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