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Question: Which is less likely to happen?
A team goes undefeated.   -13 (56.5%)
A team goes winless.   -10 (43.5%)
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« on: November 12, 2008, 04:57:13 pm »
With the Lions at risk of going winless, and just last season with the Pats and Fins, this is coming up on sports shows.  What says you?
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 05:02:36 pm »

Wouldn't it be wild if we had both this season?

I voted for winless though...just because I think Detroit has a better chance of going 0-16 than Tennessee has of going 16-0.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 05:14:53 pm »
Just to be clear for the purposes of this poll what is the definition of undefeated? 

16-0 or 19-0?
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 05:36:42 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 12, 2008, 05:14:53 pm
Just to be clear for the purposes of this poll what is the definition of undefeated? 

16-0 or 19-0?

No losses in regular season, playoffs, or Super Bowl.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 06:12:47 pm »

In that case, 19-0 is definitely less likely to happen than 0-16...
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 07:15:45 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on November 12, 2008, 05:02:36 pm
Wouldn't it be wild if we had both this season?

I voted for winless though...just because I think Detroit has a better chance of going 0-16 than Tennessee has of going 16-0.



It would be wild, but it can't happen. Tennessee and Detroit play each other...What if that game is a tie?

0-15-1 and 18-0-1  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 07:49:47 pm »
Quote from: Frimp on November 12, 2008, 07:15:45 pm
It would be wild, but it can't happen. Tennessee and Detroit play each other...What if that game is a tie?

0-15-1 and 18-0-1  Grin

Yes it can.  If Tenn wins the game they can go 19-0.  If the Lions lose the game they can go 0-16. 

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 07:53:10 pm »
^^

Duh...I don't know what I was thinking.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 09:29:11 pm »

I was scratchin' my head there, too... Wink

I would LOVE to see a tie game between them turn into the only non-win for TN and the only non-loss for Detroit. That'd be hilarious for a long time.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 09:36:28 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on November 12, 2008, 09:29:11 pm
I was scratchin' my head there, too... Wink

I would LOVE to see a tie game between them turn into the only non-win for TN and the only non-loss for Detroit. That'd be hilarious for a long time.

You realize that back in the old NFL days, the Canton (Ohio) Bulldogs actually did have an unbeaten season and won the NFL Championship..... but they tied two games.   Not a perfect season. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2008, 12:44:57 am »
Quote from: Tommy on November 12, 2008, 09:36:28 pm
You realize that back in the old NFL days, the Canton (Ohio) Bulldogs actually did have an unbeaten season and won the NFL Championship..... but they tied two games.   Not a perfect season. 

Same thing with the Cleveland browns in 1948, 13-0-1 was there record.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2008, 12:54:29 am »
just to add, 3 teams through NFL history have gone undefeated (2 non perfect season, 1 perfect season), at least 10 teams i know have gone winless. (Espn page 2 notes 7 winless team as the worst of all time), i also found 3 teams that went winless on football reference.com.

So based on this, more teams have gone winless in NFL history, than have gone undefeated.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 10:32:00 am »
Now we're splitting hairs.  Might as well count the NFL from the merger in 1970 forward.  When did the Browns join the NFL (the first time, not in 99)?  I know the Browns are the reason the Rams moved to LA but don't know when they came over from the AAFC.     
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2008, 04:43:55 pm »
Also, the rules on ties have been changed over the years, where that scenario is very, very unlikely.
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 04:48:43 pm »
Imagine if you you went 1-0-15. (1 win, 15 ties) you could be undefeated but still not make the playoffs. 
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