Are we Getting Change with Obama?

[Dphins4me]

   Everyone here probably knows I was not an Obama fan, but he is soon to be Pres & I'm wondering about his platform of change.  Are we getting it?

From my view point he is bringing in the same old tired ideas that lead to what is currently happening. Career Politicians who are out from themselves & not the country.

I'm not going to get into all of them, since that would be a long line, but here are the top 3.

Ruan Emanuel - Was on Board of Directors at Freddie Mac when they started lying about their situation.

Hillary Clinton - Well known, old politician with the same old view points of 15 Yrs. ago..

Tom Daschle - Former 18 Yr.  & Senate Majority Leader who terms were when some of the policies were passed that allowed this economic crisis to happen.

My question is.  Where is the new blood that will bring change?  Are we suppose to believe that these some old people suddenly are going to be for change?

The old saying.  Actions speaks louder than words, so right now I'm not impressed with his actions.  I have a hard time believing he will rule over these people & make them view things differently.

This is not an I hate Obama thread.  I'm just wondering how others are viewing his nominations, because I'm not seeing the promised changed from his nominations.

[MaineDolFan]

The old saying.  Actions speaks louder than words, so right now I'm not impressed with his actions.  I have a hard time believing he will rule over these people & make them view things differently.

Coming from someone that wouldn't be impressed with his actions even if he were to turn water into wine, this doesn't say a lot.  No offense but it's hard to take this all that seriously coming from the source.  You were amazingly closed minded about him prior to the election, why should anyone be surprised that stance hasn't changed now?

[bsfins]

Who do you expect him to pick? I look it at as,You've got to have people around you,that know how Washington works....

I agree with the Saying I think I heard on CNN...I'd rather have them In the Tent Pissing out,rather outside the tent Pissing in....

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Obama hasn't even taken office yet and you're already complaining about him.  Sheesh. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I have noticed a pattern.... everyone who prior to the election scaremongered that if Obama was elected that Ayers and Wright would be in an Obama administration is now bitching there isn't enough change. 

I voted for Obama expecting a left of center but moderate approach with a fair number of Clinton appointment retreads.  I am a little disappointed that we are not seeing a few more true progressives and "Dean Democrats."

While I would welcome Ralph Nader as head of the EPA or Consumer protection and it would be more change I am not surprised it isn't happening.   

I am sorry that you are disappointed that Obama is providing the "change" that GOPAC was claiming would occur.  But he has not gone back on his promises.   

[Defense54]

Obama hasn't even taken office yet and you're already complaining about him.  Sheesh. 

LOL!!!  Where is the Irony meter when you need it!?


 

[Dphins4me]

Coming from someone that wouldn't be impressed with his actions even if he were to turn water into wine, this doesn't say a lot.  No offense but it's hard to take this all that seriously coming from the source.  You were amazingly closed minded about him prior to the election, why should anyone be surprised that stance hasn't changed now?

  Amazingly?  No stretch there.     First off, there is nothing closed minded about me. ( If I were closed minded, then I'd be here saying there was a link between Obama & the Gov. of Ill, & that it proves Obama is just as dirty as all the rest, but I'm not nor do I believe there is a link. )

 I'm not against Obama, because I'm one of the few who might have actually voted for something different than what we have had running this country for the last hundred years.  However, I am hoping he goes down as a great Pres.


   Second & I do want to emphasize thanks for making it about me & the post afterward followed your lead.  Being a Mod I would think you would understand the difference between addressing the post & not the poster. 

This was suppose to be about his nominations & not what I thought about Obama's politics prior to the election.  I was just expecting some new blood here with different ideas.

I was hoping to see how others were feeling about the nominations.

[Dphins4me]

Who do you expect him to pick? I look it at as,You've got to have people around you,that know how Washington works....

I agree with the Saying I think I heard on CNN...I'd rather have them In the Tent Pissing out,rather outside the tent Pissing in....

Isn't that the problem?  People knowing how Wash. works?  Playing the same games, doing the same thing that got us into this mess.

I understand his motivation of Clinton.  Keep your enemies close type thing.

[Dphins4me]

Obama hasn't even taken office yet and you're already complaining about him.  Sheesh. 

I was asking what others are expecting from him, now we are seeing his nominations.

Do they still expect all this change from him?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I was asking what others are expecting from him, now we are seeing his nominations.

Do they still expect all this change from him?

yes, I am still expecting incremental change.  I have already seen a huge change. 

His vetting process and requirements about not working and lobbying on the same issues.  Furthermore unlike Bush, the Gov of Ill or many others his appointments are not based on political favors but actual competence.  Not having a FEMA director who got the job because he was successful fundraiser for the campaign is change I can believe in.     

[Dphins4me]

I have noticed a pattern.... everyone who prior to the election scaremongered that if Obama was elected that Ayers and Wright would be in an Obama administration is now bitching there isn't enough change. 

I do not recall anyone here saying such.  I sure didn't.

I voted for Obama expecting a left of center but moderate approach with a fair number of Clinton appointment retreads.  I am a little disappointed that we are not seeing a few more true progressives and "Dean Democrats."

Thank you, that is what I was wanting to know.  How people were viewing them.

While I would welcome Ralph Nader as head of the EPA or Consumer protection and it would be more change I am not surprised it isn't happening.   

  That is one nomination I would have loved.  I like Nader & he would have been different.

I am sorry that you are disappointed that Obama is providing the "change" that GOPAC was claiming would occur.  But he has not gone back on his promises.   

I was simply hoping we would see different faces.  ALA Palin.  Someone from outside the Washington

[Frimp]

We'll get change...as in the kind that goes in our pockets, and not much more. For example, If Obama passes those ridiculous emission standards for cars, its going to kill the auto industry because it simply isn't cost effective yet. Also, raising taxes to offset carbon (if algore gets his way) will hurt lots of businesses. widespread layoffs and businesses closing will be the result.

I was recently talking with a changemonger and of course all he could say was "Obama is going to change it!" Couldn't tell me WHAT Obama was going to change though. I told him the old "be careful what you wish for...you just might get it." He then told me that I must be against him because he's black.   That's one way to end a conversation with me. You pull that card out, and it tells me that you have absolutely no idea why you even voted for Obama, and are completely clueless about life in general. I told that guy that I was through with him, and wasn't going to talk to him anymore. Guess you shouldn't discuss politics at work when you are on a smoke break.  

[Dphins4me]

We'll get change...as in the kind that goes in our pockets, and not much more. For example, If Obama passes those ridiculous emission standards for cars, its going to kill the auto industry because it simply isn't cost effective yet. Also, raising taxes to offset carbon (if algore gets his way) will hurt lots of businesses. widespread layoffs and businesses closing will be the result.

Obama is not a dumb man & I know he knows everything you said will happen.

Personally I'm really not concerned with things like these.  I've heard the 10 Yr plans on most of this type stuff & anyone who knows anything about politics knows about a Pres. & their 10 Yr plans. 

All the drastic changes take place in Yrs. 9 & 10 when they are no longer in office, so I do not pay any attention to anything that is attached to a 10+ Yr. plan.

[Dave Gray]

Hey Dphins,

Thanks for a good question.

It's too early to tell, obviously.  However, I think that change comes from a paradigm shift and leadership, not necessarily the people you have in there to carry things out.  I also don't think that change is a lightswitch.  Change isn't a decision you make.  I think it's a new direction that will take decades (and more than one president) to realize, but Obama has to opportunity to point us to a new place.  It's really the job of the US citizens and future leadership to make sure we stay on that path.

Also, I think that we're already seeing change in Obama's cabinet, in that he's not choosing "cronies".  He's not picking a bunch of "yes men" or those that share his ideas on everything.  He is welcoming debate into his cabinet, as he feels that it's healthy towards good decision-making.

Personally, I do wish we'd see a little more of what the right would call "radical liberalism" in the cabinet, and what we're seeing now is more moderate choices.

But again, it's way too early to tell, and with the state of our nation how it is, before he delivers change of any kind, I think his priority is restoring order first.

[bsfins]

Isn't that the problem?  People knowing how Wash. works?  Playing the same games, doing the same thing that got us into this mess.

I understand his motivation of Clinton.  Keep your enemies close type thing.

I disagree,I think if you go in there with People that are Big on ideas (and don't know Washington),and you piss off all the old guard P.O.S. you can't get anything accomplished......You bring in people that know how to work the system,Get things done....They're following Obama's agenda,He's the Lead dog..Unlike Bush....