CHFF: Pennington for MVP.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

It's not like Manning was some travesty of a pick for MVP.

Noodles was one of several viable candidates.

Noodles was my first pick.  Manning was somewhere around 8 or 9.   

[fyo]

Noodles was my first pick.  Manning was somewhere around 8 or 9.  

I think that's the anti-Manning Brady bias at work.

I've watched quite a few Colts games this year and Manning carried that team on his back, literally carrying them to the win when everyone around him was injured and / or playing like shit. Sure, he might not have racked up huge numbers in those games, but then that's hard to do when you have no o-line, no RB capable of more than 3.5 yards per attempt and a bunch of injured (and poorly-playing) receivers.

For those who claim the Colts would have won 8-9 games without Manning... I seriously doubt that. They've had wins of 3, 4, 3, 4, 3, and 4 points before getting hot (and healthy, not coincidentally) late. Without those wins, they would have been at real risk of collapsing... and I don't see them winning any of those without Manning.

Pennington and Manning were both viable MVP candidates in my book, but I had Manning slightly above Penny overall.

I do think there are a handful of defensive players that should have been part of the discussion as well, but considering the last time there was a defensive MVP (50 years ago?), that was never going to happen.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I do think there are a handful of defensive players that should have been part of the discussion as well, but considering the last time there was a defensive MVP (50 years ago?), that was never going to happen.

That's why they have the Defensive POY.  IMO, there should be no "MVP" per se.  Name a POY on offense and defense and be done with it.

[NADS]

If fyo says Manning was worthy then I'm good with that.  It seems like a lot of stars had average if not bad seasons this year.  Pennington, on the other hand, had a career year or we wouldn't even be talking about MVP.  I don't think Chad could have done much better and he's always the pro in interviews much like Manning in this year's MVP conference.  It's always about the team and not the individual.

[Thundergod]

I think that's the anti-Manning Brady bias at work.

I've watched quite a few Colts games this year and Manning carried that team on his back, literally carrying them to the win when everyone around him was injured and / or playing like shit. Sure, he might not have racked up huge numbers in those games, but then that's hard to do when you have no o-line, no RB capable of more than 3.5 yards per attempt and a bunch of injured (and poorly-playing) receivers.

For those who claim the Colts would have won 8-9 games without Manning... I seriously doubt that. They've had wins of 3, 4, 3, 4, 3, and 4 points before getting hot (and healthy, not coincidentally) late. Without those wins, they would have been at real risk of collapsing... and I don't see them winning any of those without Manning.

Pennington and Manning were both viable MVP candidates in my book, but I had Manning slightly above Penny overall.

Well said.