Pennington or Henne?

[Thundergod]

Henne = Rodgers

[stealth3ltt]

I admit penny may not have the best arm for the deep ball,  but I'd rather have him than a guy who can throw the deep ball and get 22 pics a season(farve).  I don't know what game you guys were watching this weekend but i saw a qb who was trying as hard as he could to get something done.  what do you expect him to do throw the ball and run down the field and catch it for a touchdown?  at one point he only had three receivers to throw to and they were not fast enough or smart enough to breakaway from the defense.  Also if penny dropped back farther than a 3 step drop there were more black jersey's then white in from of him.  on top of all that his running backs couldn't get past the line of scrimmage.  so he forced some throws, he had to.  penny is the least of my worries on this team for next year.  offensive line and receivers and a defensive secondary is what needs attention.   if Henne starts next year the dolphins will only win 4-5 games max......guaranteed.   Stop with the crazy talk!!!!

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I know the popular thing is to lob all of the ills of yesterday on Pennington.  It wasn't Pennington that was being plowed through like powder snow...it was the offensive line.  It was Pennington running bad routes...or FALLING DOWN in the route.  That was Ginn.  He wasn't the one giving Flacco enough time in the pocket to write a book, that was our non-existant pash rush.  He wasn't the one letting a guy that used to be on the practice squad average 5 yards a carry on us...that would be the d-line, linebackers and safety.  He sure as hell wasn't the guy averaging, what?  1.2 yards per carry?  That would be Ricky and Ronnie - running behind the previously mentioned O line that couldn't have blocked a fat kid from a doughnut yesterday.

Yes, he tossed four picks.  Yes, that counts for something.

YES - it took a TEAM effort to blow the game yesterday.  Henne would not have mattered yesterday...period. 

Therefore you need to look at who, overall, gives you the best chance to win.  I think that's Pennington.

Read my original post.  I'm talking about Pennington's entire career, not specifically yesterday's game.  Pennington had a bad game against a good defense, that happens.  However, I believe Pennington is not at his best when he has to throw 35-40 times per game.  Some QBs (Marino) are perfectly capable of taking over a game doing that, Pennington isn't one of them. 

[Dphins4me]

  Stay the course with Henne.   He is the future of this team.  See how he is come camp & if he shows he is ready the start him.  If he does appear to be ready then keep Pennington as starter, until that time or Pennington gets hurt.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Pennington should be the starter in 2009, as he has earned that right. The man just had an MVP season and while he was disastrous on Sunday, he is still our bets option. I like having the luxury of Henne watching and learning under brilliant football minds for 2 years. I would've liked him to see some time this season, but almost every game was close and we always were in a must win situation.

If that happens again in 2009, so be it. I won't be complaining that Henne has no snaps because we need to win a game to clinch a playoff berth.

[Sunstroke]

Roll with Pennington coming out of the gate next year, but start giving Henne more run with the first team during practice. In games where we're either up big or down big, get him on the field...and then if you ""need" to use Henne down the stretch, he'll be better prepared.

Also...and I swear this isn't me just prolonging my Beck-bitchslap campaign...I wouldn't mind seeing a different #3 QB brought in to start developing as well. Don't spend any kind of draft pick before round 6-7, but some high-ceiling raw prospect would work for me in that slot.

[Crabby440]

Roll with Pennington coming out of the gate next year, but start giving Henne more run with the first team during practice. In games where we're either up big or down big, get him on the field...and then if you ""need" to use Henne down the stretch, he'll be better prepared.

Also...and I swear this isn't me just prolonging my Beck-bitchslap campaign...I wouldn't mind seeing a different #3 QB brought in to start developing as well. Don't spend any kind of draft pick before round 6-7, but some high-ceiling raw prospect would work for me in that slot.

screw that i want tebow.

[Kirbyjr]

screw that i want tebow.

I'd take Beck before Tebow.

[Sunstroke]

screw that i want tebow.

I'd take Beck before Tebow.

I don't want either... I don't want Tebow because his cost would be too high for a team that just spent a 2nd rounder on their QB of the future, and I don't want Beck because he sucks balls.

[Dolphin-UK]

I don't want Beck because he sucks balls.

Have you told him this? It could just be that no one has thought to tell him he's supposed to throw them not suck them?!

[Sunstroke]

Have you told him this? It could just be that no one has thought to tell him he's supposed to throw them not suck them?!

I sat down with Beck a few months ago and told him...

"Look, kid...it's getting pretty obvious that you completely suck balls as a quarterback. Have you considered tennis or something? I know you went on a mission for the mormon church...will God take ya back for another go? If you need to use me as a reference, John...you know I'm good for it."

[Brian Fein]

Tebow = Eric Crouch.

I read something like Tebow took 3 snaps from under center all season.  3 snaps.  I don't watch the Gators so I don't know if that's true, but if it is, it speaks volumes.  The guy can only operate out of the shotgun?  Really?

Mark this thread!  Tim Tebow will be an NFL bust.

[fyo]

Tebow = Eric Crouch.

I haven't seen Tebow play, but the comparison to Crouch might be a little harsh. The two college stats that correlate the best with NFL success are completion percentage and games started. Crouch completed only 51.5% of his college passes, while Tebow has completed 66%.

NFL scouts agreed and Crouch was never going to be an NFL quarterback. The Rams drafted him to be a receiver before he wussed out.

Crouch was also 6-0 and 210 pounds, whereas Tebow is listed at 6-3 and 240 pounds.

Tebow's numbers (both college stats and physical stats) are a lot closer to Roethlisberger than Crouch. Not saying Tebow will ever be a decent quarterback - nor that he'll ever even get the chance - but the comparison to Crouch seems odd (and denigrating).

Crouch was more like Antwan Randle El. A small college quarterback with good speed and a completion percentage in the 50% range. Crouch and Randle El also both had something like 50% more passing yards than rushing yards in college, whereas Tebow has 3 times more passing yards than rushing yards.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Mark this thread!  Tim Tebow will be an NFL bust.

I think Tebow has a future in the NFL.... but not at QB.

[Crabby440]

how have you guys never seen more than one of his games? all they talk about on tv is Tim Tebow..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxWFDgQyZgo