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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2009, 05:17:45 pm »

penny will start ... only way henne gets to sniff the field is if chad gets hurt (and when it doesn't count in preseason).

dolphins still have a lot of holes to fill and i would like to see them concentrate on defense. pass rushing de, dt, cb, and maybe an upgrade at mlb.
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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2009, 05:54:02 pm »

I can't say whether the Dolphins should start Penny or Henne.  But I will say this, if they need to water down the offense for Henne, they should start Penny and give Henne another year of study in the film room. 

It's not a question of "watering down the offense". That term insinuates that you're talking the existing offense and making it simpler. That's rarely a good thing (although it can be necessary if your star quarterback goes down in the middle of the season and your backup has little experience). As I said, "it's a complete offensive system". It needs to be tailored to your inexperienced quarterback from the ground up.

Take pretty much every young quarterback with success recently and that's what's been done. Staying with the Ravens, Kyle Boller represents a pretty good example of doing the opposite. Boller was asked to do WAY too much from the get go and looked lost out there. If your young quarterback looks lost, blame the OC or HC. Simple as that.
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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2009, 06:33:06 pm »


Gotta go - I'm scheduled to perform brain surgery this afternoon and need to watch the medical channel to learn how to do it.

Your ability to make stupid pointless analogies knows no bounds.  Watching a one hour show on the discovery channel makes you no more qualified to preform surgery, than my watching one hour program on quarterbacking on NFLN makes me qualified to be an NFL QB.

But doctors don't learn to perform surgery thru trial and error.  And it is not a bright idea to have your QB learn that way either.

First doctors learn thru some film study but mostly book study.  Then they "practice" on cadavers.  But they don't perform surgery "on game day" until they already know how to do it.

If Henne can't read a defense and Pennington is healthy then Pennington should be playing.  Unless the Dolphins goal is to get the first pick in the 2010 draft.

Henne needs to be able to quickly identify a defense by looking at it thru an end zone camera angle.   And orally telling the OC the adjustment he would make.   

My point was not that Henne won't improve during the course of the season in which is playing, of course he will need to.  My point is there is a lot one can learn off the field.  And the deciding factor on who starts should be "is Henne ready?"
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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2009, 08:02:22 pm »

Gotta go - I'm scheduled to perform brain surgery this afternoon and need to watch the medical channel to learn how to do it.

You're a moron.  Take your lame jokes to the Off Topic forum.  Better yet, take them to another site.
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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2009, 08:33:17 pm »

Your ability to make stupid pointless analogies knows no bounds. 
Agreed ... it is only exceeded by the ability of TDMMC members to be irritated by them. 
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« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2009, 08:34:48 pm »

You're a moron.  Take your lame jokes to the Off Topic forum.  Better yet, take them to another site.
The only difference between my lame jokes and your lame posts are that I realize I'm making a joke when I post.  Lameness doesn't come naturally for all of us Tommy.
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« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2009, 12:36:47 am »

Pennington starts until he shows he can't produce.  If Henne can read defenses like Pennington and be the main reason we led the league in TO differential, then he should get the nod due to the "stronger arm" theory.  Fiedler had a stronger arm than Pennington but I hardly remember him hitting a receiver running down the sideline without throwing it out of bounds.  I admit I'm not a big Fiedler fan.  I'm not sold on unproven QBs so Henne sits.  In all fairness though, he hasn't really had the opportunity.  The young Marino also has me biased.  That guy broke the mold...no great rushing game and/or dominating defense like Ben, Flacco, and Matt Ryan had.
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« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2009, 11:12:00 am »

The young Marino also has me biased.  That guy broke the mold...no great rushing game and/or dominating defense like Ben, Flacco, and Matt Ryan had.
Marino was the exception ... and he was helped by both a strong running game and defense his first couple of seasons.
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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2009, 05:09:28 pm »

The only difference between my lame jokes and your lame posts are that I realize I'm making a joke when I post.  Lameness doesn't come naturally for all of us Tommy.

Ahh the classic playing of the " I'm making a joke" excuse.
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« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2009, 05:10:38 pm »

i fixed your mistake.  ricky 4 carries 17 yards  ronnie 12 carries 19 yards

Can you get through a thread without atacking Ronnie?
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« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2009, 06:58:48 pm »

  First thing's first, all this talk about Tim Tebow is null and void.  Tebow is returning to school, which is the smart thing for him to do.

  Anyways, Coach Sparano came out and already said that Pennington would be the starter going into 2009.  That's the way it should be.  There was an article recently in the Miami Herald where Henne talked about how being Chad's apprentice has helped his growth tremendously.  As long as Penny plays well, Henne should get the Aaron Rodgers treatment.
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« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2009, 07:03:28 pm »

   As long as Penny plays well, Henne should get the Aaron Rodgers treatment.

I am shocked that a Dolphan fan would insult Chad Pennington like that!  By all accounts Pennington as been a model mentor.  Lord Favre treated Rodgers like an unwanted hemorrhoid. 

Even a troll such as myself would not insult Penny by comparing Henne's treatment to Roger's treatment.   
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« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2009, 12:09:36 am »

Ahh the classic playing of the " I'm making a joke" excuse.
Did anyone else believe I was scheduled to perform brain surgery or just bs mooth?  Tommy? 

Just in case ... I'm not a brain surgeon.  I hope that clears up any confusion.
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« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2009, 12:22:46 am »

Did anyone else believe I was scheduled to perform brain surgery or just bs mooth?  Tommy? 

Just in case ... I'm not a brain surgeon.  I hope that clears up any confusion.

no, nobody thinks you are a brain surgeon. fear not. 

but you were attempting to make a point that the only way Henne would improve as a QB would be by playing instead of in film study.  You were arguing against my comment that if Henne isn't ready he should spend more time in the film room, learning to read defenses etc.

a point that you completely contradicted when you also said that there was a difference between Cassel and Henne as Cassel was in his 4th year and Henne would be in his second, being Cassel spend all three of those years on the sideline.   
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« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2009, 12:31:05 am »

They should start a show on Comedy Central called "Henne vs. Penny"

OK that was lame  Grin
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