Pennington or Henne?

[bsmooth]

Did anyone else believe I was scheduled to perform brain surgery or just bs mooth?  Tommy? 

Just in case ... I'm not a brain surgeon.  I hope that clears up any confusion.

You were not making a joke, you were making one of your now famous/infamous snide and sarcastic swipes. Then when someone calls you on it, you come up with a lame excuse about it being a joke.

[Tepop84]

Can you get through a thread without atacking Ronnie?

Sorry for pointing out facts.  Maybe other members will finally take off their rose colored glasses and actually look at Ronnie.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Sorry for pointing out facts.  Maybe other members will finally take off their rose colored glasses and actually look at Ronnie.

We're looking at him just fine SpongeBob Tepop

[run_to_win]

but you were attempting to make a point that the only way Henne would improve as a QB would be by playing instead of in film study.  You were arguing against my comment that if Henne isn't ready he should spend more time in the film room, learning to read defenses etc.

a point that you completely contradicted when you also said that there was a difference between Cassel and Henne as Cassel was in his 4th year and Henne would be in his second, being Cassel spend all three of those years on the sideline.   

Cassel had 4 mini-camps, 4 training camps, and 3 years of film study and attending NFL practices going into this season.  He was probably as prepared as any first time starter has ever been.  Yet, he still showed considerable improvement throughout the season. 

There's only so far one can progress without on the job training.

[run_to_win]

You were not making a joke, you were making one of your now famous/infamous snide and sarcastic swipes. Then when someone calls you on it, you come up with a lame excuse about it being a joke.

Geez, I'm not sure if I should apologize for hurting your feelings or post a picture of a crying baby. 

The fact that just about everything I do irritates you makes me smile.  I'd be crushed if you ever found the inner strength to ignore me. 

[Brian Fein]

^^^  I disagree.  NEP didn't water down  the offense for Cassel. 

Totally disagree.  I actually can't believe you just said that.

The first few games Cassell played, how many passes of 20+ did he throw?  How many passes of 20+ does Brady throw in a typical game?  what about 40+? 

The first 3-4 games Cassell started, the Patriots' offense became very vanilla, short passes and run oriented.  Maybe it plays to Cassell's strengths, but in reality its very different from the Brady-to-Moss air-it-out game the Pats usually are known for.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Totally disagree.  I actually can't believe you just said that.

The first few games Cassell played, how many passes of 20+ did he throw?  How many passes of 20+ does Brady throw in a typical game?  what about 40+? 

The first 3-4 games Cassell started, the Patriots' offense became very vanilla, short passes and run oriented.  Maybe it plays to Cassell's strengths, but in reality its very different from the Brady-to-Moss air-it-out game the Pats usually are known for.

They ran the same plays.  But passing plays typically give the QB 2-4 options and the QB then after the ball is snapped decides who to throw the ball to based on who is open. 

Last year it was not uncommon for Brady to to throw Moss a pass slicing it between two defenders 20 yards down the field while Wes was totally open.  Cassel was more inclined to take the short dump off to the open man then the more risky throw it into double coverage. 

But the offense was the same.  The OC was calling the same plays the WR were running the same routes, the difference was in the QB's decision making during the check down.   

[EKnight]

Not sure the qb issue matters at this point if we don't shore up the O line. Next year's schedule has us playing Carolina, TB, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, and Indy.  That's at least five teams outside of our own division that can kill the run and pressure whoever is under center. My personal opinion is that Pennington got us where we were this year, but he did it against a much easier schedule than what we will be seeing in '09.  Barring injury, he should (and will) start the season, but 8 games in, it's possible we will make a change based less on quarterback performance and more on the defenses we've played.  If we would've played 6-8 teams with defenses closer to Baltimore, than the 6-8 we played that included the Raiders, 49ers, Seahawks, Chiefs, Texans (who actually beat us), and Rams, who's to say Henne wouldn't have gotten in THIS year? ~EK