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« on: January 06, 2009, 01:39:04 am »

Also just in: the sun is suspected to be a source of heat.

Big Ten record in bowls this year: 1-6
ACC record in bowls this year: 4-6

Meanwhile, MWC record in bowls this year: 4-1

The BCS system is a sham.  College football desperately needs a playoff.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 02:11:38 am »


And the Pac-10?

Yessir... 5-0

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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 10:02:17 am »

I think the conference bowl records are misleading. The numbers are given like statistics in a vacuum. It doesn't take into account matchups or anything else.

Only a playoff system would really show the strength or weakness of conferences.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2009, 10:34:54 am »

I think the conference bowl records are misleading. The numbers are given like statistics in a vacuum. It doesn't take into account matchups or anything else.

Only a playoff system would really show the strength or weakness of conferences.

Oo soo true. There were a lot of teams that did not belong in bowls being matched up against teams that did.
Although if Dez Bryant does not get injured Oregon loses. Tough break for Ok St.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 11:48:33 am »

Oo soo true. There were a lot of teams that did not belong in bowls being matched up against teams that did.
Um, this is the point.

Overrated conferences with mediocre teams get bowl entries on name recognition.  They summarily get punched in the mouth by a superior team from a mid-major conference.  (see: Utah vs. Alabama)
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 01:55:14 pm »

Um, this is the point.

Overrated conferences with mediocre teams get bowl entries on name recognition.  They summarily get punched in the mouth by a superior team from a mid-major conference.  (see: Utah vs. Alabama)

Easy there.  Alabama did not have a bad season.  They had a really ferocious defense and smash mouth running backs.  Trouble is, they didn't care about the Sugar Bowl once they lost the SEC Championship. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 04:50:01 pm »

Easy there.  Alabama did not have a bad season.  They had a really ferocious defense and smash mouth running backs.  Trouble is, they didn't care about the Sugar Bowl once they lost the SEC Championship. 

If you think for a second the problem was motivation and not that Utah was heads and shoulders a better football team (ie. Alabama got completely out coached among other things) than you were not watching the same game that I was.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 05:45:06 pm »

If you think for a second the problem was motivation and not that Utah was heads and shoulders a better football team (ie. Alabama got completely out coached among other things) than you were not watching the same game that I was.

Lack of motivation can lead to unpreparedness and being outcoached.
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 05:52:03 pm »

I hate the Big 10
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 06:40:58 pm »

Lack of motivation can lead to unpreparedness and being outcoached.

Tommy, its hardly arguable. That team was not even in the same league as Utah. It wasn't an any given Saturday type thing, its EVERY given Saturday.

Those teams play ten times, and they get dominated every time. Utah looked that good.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 06:44:37 pm »

Tommy, its hardly arguable. That team was not even in the same league as Utah. It wasn't an any given Saturday type thing, its EVERY given Saturday.

Those teams play ten times, and they get dominated every time. Utah looked that good.

Hardly arguable?  Then why is nearly every major sportscaster I've been listening to the past few days arguing the fact?  The Alabama team that played in the Sugar Bowl was not the same team that destroyed Clemson and Georgia.  There is no way Utah beats that Alabama team, let alone dominates them. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 06:59:54 pm »

Big 10 is a solid conference, but they just were matched up against better teams. Only Iowa played a team they should've defeated. I was actually shocked OSU nearly beat Texas, figured it would be a 63-9 massacre with Texas claiming they are National Champs. That will obviously not be the case now.

Penn State's one major weakness was their secondary and it was exploited to the fullest. They are an excellent team, but you can't have a secondary THAT AWFUL and expect to be a Top 5 team.

IMO, Utah is National Champions and I can share that with whoever wins the BCS game, as both Oklahoma and Florida are awesome.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 07:40:29 pm »

Hardly arguable?  Then why is nearly every major sportscaster I've been listening to the past few days arguing the fact? 

Because every major sportscaster is on ESPN. ESPN is a entertainment network, not a sports network.

The SEC this year is not what it was in year's past.

If you think Alabama got stomped out because they weren't "pumped" to play a BCS game on national television than there is no reasoning with you.

Did you watch the game or just the highlights?

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 09:06:43 pm »

Because every major sportscaster is on ESPN. ESPN is a entertainment network, not a sports network.

The SEC this year is not what it was in year's past.

If you think Alabama got stomped out because they weren't "pumped" to play a BCS game on national television than there is no reasoning with you.

Did you watch the game or just the highlights?

I watched the game.... and I saw an Alabama team that clearly seemed not to care.   And as for what you're saying about "major sportscasters" on ESPN, you're dead wrong if you think that's who I've been listening to.  I've spent the past five days in the Northeast, and I listened to 660 WFAN New York, and 610 WICP Philadelphia.  These are about as far from ESPN as you can get.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 09:42:07 pm »

Easy there.  Alabama did not have a bad season.  They had a really ferocious defense and smash mouth running backs.  Trouble is, they didn't care about the Sugar Bowl once they lost the SEC Championship.
So if I understand correctly:

If the major conference team loses to the undefeated mid-major team, it's because they were demoralized due to being out of the championship game.

HOWEVER

If the major conference team beats the undefeated mid-major team, it's NOT because the mid-major team was demoralized due to being out of the championship game.  No, it's because the mid-major team was a fraud and never deserved to be there.  Right?

Funny how I didn't hear you playing the "lack of motivation" card after undefeated Hawaii got stomped out by Georgia in last year's Sugar Bowl...
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