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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2009, 12:49:13 am »

On the other hand, Manning didn't have a great defense when he won his ring.

Yea, the Colts had a shit defense but they showed up in the playoffs and the Super Bowl and that's all it took.

I want Baltimore's defense.  They're so old but still get it done.
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2009, 12:59:49 am »

Sorry that your life is so sad and uneventful that you spent the whole day researching that just to try to make a point. I've got a bit more going on in my life so if it was actually a 36-38 point game........then I stand corrected.  Roll Eyes

Alls I know is that Dan Marino put points on the board. He is one of the most prolific passers in History and didn't hold every record for not scoring. FACT
Dan Never won a championship. FACT
 
So One can reasonable assume that no matter how many points he put up , His defense usually let him down.  Roll Eyes DUH  Roll Eyes

But Trent Dilfers did not.  Hence the little ring that he wears  while Dan has every other record in the book but no jewelry. Roll Eyes

You actually look more retarded because..........you are a fucking moron.  Roll Eyes Wink Cheesy

Go back and research that............ Cheesy

Dan Marino and his teams were not high powered offenses.  They were good, but not great.  Fiedlers had 7 40+ point games in his career, which wasn't as long as Marinos.

To answer the question in the original OP, you are going to win a lot of games and your share of Super bowls with either a true high powered offense or a stone cold defense.  Personally, I would rather watch offense than defense, so give me the high powered offense.  The Rams teams w/ Warner were fun to watch.
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2009, 01:22:46 am »

Fiedler's offense wasn't scoring forty points because of him--Marino's was.  If we got behind by 10 points in the Fiedler era, I remember thinking we were boned unless the D did something spectacular.  I remember him coming off the bench (after an injury) to replace Ray Lucas and having a good passing game but that's about it.  Anyone know which game that was?   
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2009, 01:23:55 am »

Fiedler's offense wasn't scoring forty points because of him--Marino's was.  If we got behind by 10 points in the Fiedler era, I remember thinking we were boned unless the D did something spectacular.  I remember him coming off the bench (after an injury) to replace Ray Lucas and having a good passing game but that's about it.  Anyone know which game that was?   
Right, he didn't play well against Dallas on Thanksgiving.   It was the orange jersey washington game.
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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2009, 06:46:08 pm »

Dan Marino and his teams were not high powered offenses.  They were good, but not great.  Fiedlers had 7 40+ point games in his career, which wasn't as long as Marinos.

To answer the question in the original OP, you are going to win a lot of games and your share of Super bowls with either a true high powered offense or a stone cold defense.  Personally, I would rather watch offense than defense, so give me the high powered offense.  The Rams teams w/ Warner were fun to watch.

Much better tone. You keep it down I will. become a dick again and I will Tea Bag you again.

Thats said............ 61,361 Total passing Yds. 13 - 3000+ Yd seasons, He had no running game but he could score at will , however his defense always let him down. Tom Olivdettii was a pimple on the Dolphin ass. I hope he gave Coach Shula good oral becuase he was USELESS.
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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2009, 07:35:54 pm »

Tom Olivdettii was a pimple on the Dolphin ass. I hope he gave Coach Shula good oral becuase he was USELESS.

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/rod-olivadotti.html
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2009, 02:31:31 pm »

Defense wins championships.

I rather have a bruising defense and a good offense thats able to put 21+ pts or more  a game
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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2009, 04:46:25 pm »

You can point to the Rams "Greatest Show On Turf" as an example, but that almost backfired.  They left enough time on the clock for the Titans to move the ball down the field and only a timely tackle by Mike Jones saved the game.
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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2009, 11:15:05 pm »

I rather have a bruising defense and a good offense thats able to put 21+ pts or more  a game

Absolutely. The Steelers will prove the point this year.
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2009, 09:00:27 am »

Dan Marino and his teams were not high powered offenses.  They were good, but not great.  Fiedlers had 7 40+ point games in his career, which wasn't as long as Marinos.


I would love to know where in the hell you got this stat. Fiedler didn't even sniff 7 40+ point games.
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« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2009, 04:15:49 pm »

Fiedlers had 7 40+ point games in his career, which wasn't as long as Marinos.

Following up on Phishfan's comment...

Fiedler has had exactly THREE 40+ point games as a starter. All of them for Miami. (He threw a couple passes in a two or three other 40+ point games).
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« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2009, 05:22:45 pm »

Teabag84............I guess we do like facts huh?  Cheesy

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this board doesn't like facts does it?  he scored 40+ points 9 times and lost once.  i know  it is a lot easier to just make stuff up, but the downside is you look retarded when somebody takes the time to get the facts.
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2009, 05:56:18 pm »

I would love to know where in the hell you got this stat. Fiedler didn't even sniff 7 40+ point games.

Yea, i didn't see that he didn't start some of the games.  Still marino only had 40+ points in 3.7% of the games he started and Fielder had 40+ points in 5%.  Not saying that Fiedler was a better quarterback, just that marinos teams weren't high scoring.
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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2009, 07:13:15 pm »

Yea, i didn't see that he didn't start some of the games.  Still marino only had 40+ points in 3.7% of the games he started and Fielder had 40+ points in 5%.  Not saying that Fiedler was a better quarterback, just that marinos teams weren't high scoring.

FYI, the Dolphins scored an average of 23.1 points in games where Marino started. The average for Fiedler-started games is 21.3.

On the other side of the ball, Marino's Dolphins allowed an average 20.3 points, whereas Fiedler's Dolphins allowed 17.2 points per game.

Not sure what, if anything, that tells us... Wink

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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2009, 09:55:39 pm »

Teabag84.............How the fuck can you take Fielders 5 years and average them against what Dan did for 17 yrs?  That's just a little lopsided no? And you call me a retart?
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