Brady being traded?

[Brian Fein]

you know how many 3rd and 4th round picks he can get in exchange for one of those 1st rounders?  If he wants to be wheeling and dealing, he can keep Cassel as his QB and pick up like 4 or 5 picks in the draft rounds 2-4

[run_to_win]

As a fan, I'd like to see Brady traded.  I'd like to find out if it's him, or the team around him that makes him so good.

Agreed.  Same with Peyton Manning.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I'm talking about Cassel - but you have to remember that Bellichik isn't a fan of the high picks - cost too much

I could see him asking for 3 - 2nds. 2009, 2010, 2011.   

[Frimp]

Hoodie, since Cassel has been franchised, what do you personally want to see happen with Brady?

[Dphins4me]

Belichick didn't blink when it came time to Trade  Bledsoe for a then unknown 6th rounder.......that worked out pretty well huh? They could get some serious Picks for him......still, that would take some serious gochos.

Didn't that 6th Rder win the Super Bowl for Belichick that year?  Bledsoe was sitting on the IR after going 0-2 to start that year.  Brady finished up 11-3 in '01.  Trading Bledsoe was a no brainier.

Cassel as well as he played missed the playoffs.  Brady will be 32 this year.  To many years left in him.  They will trade Cassel.

[Dphins4me]

Still Cassell is way younger and proved he could handle the job. Huge upside.  Brady could be toast...........and I hear that the Pats organization was not happy with him going to California for Surgery and a second opinon. Just saying.............

  NE is in the SB if Brady plays all year ( Probably winning it ).  Cassel missed the playoffs.

[Dphins4me]

Cassell is younger.  Brady, even while injured, demands a higher trade equivalent than Cassell.  If either of them are traded, assuming the skills are equal, would you rather trade the older, injured guy with the higher salary who will bring in more/higher picks, or the younger, possibly more athletic guy with lower salary and wouldn't bring you as much in return?

I don't see any scenario where the Pats sign Cassell for $14 million plus and deal him away to someone else.

(I was thinking of a scenario where some other team came in and offered Cassell a poison-pill deal like the Patriots did to Welker, but with the tag, it makes that tactic less effective).

  They franchised Cassel.  Poison pill will not matter.  If a team signs him, then they give up two No. 1 for him.  If Cassel signs the tender then a team will have to trade for him.

Also, the Pats did not offer Welker a poison pill contract.   They thought about it, but never did.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

  They franchised Cassel.  Poison pill will not matter.  If a team signs him, then they give up two No. 1 for him.  If Cassel signs the tender then a team will have to trade for him.

Also, the Pats did not offer Welker a poison pill contract.   They thought about it, but never did.

A team does not have to give up two #1's for him if the Pats are willing to take less. 

No one would give up two #1's for a QB coming off one good year after years of riding the pine.  If he bombs with his new team, that team is crippled for years.

[Tepop84]

Also, the Pats did not offer Welker a poison pill contract.   They thought about it, but never did.

Yes they offered him a poison pill contract but goodell stepped in and told them to make a trade.

[Defense54]

  NE is in the SB if Brady plays all year ( Probably winning it ).  Cassel missed the playoffs.

But Cassell is a young Healthy Stud. Brady now has a Limp and 2-3 yrs Tops before serious decline.  Its a tough choice.   What the Pats have going for them is Belichick does not have a Loyal bone in his hooded body. 4 Superbowls? Thats the past. What have you done for me lately!!? Belichick is a cold hearted Mofo and Nice guys finish last. He will take who he thinks will help them win the most.

[Dphins4me]

Yes they offered him a poison pill contract but goodell stepped in and told them to make a trade.

  Sorry, but no.  The plan for a poison pill offer was made, but the contract was not offered.  Goodell had nothing to do with it.

Also, the main motivation for yesterday's trade came from the owners of both the Pats and Dolphins. Robert Kraft and Wayne Huizenga became involved in the situation so there would be no bad blood between the teams, as the Patriots were planning to insert a "poison pill" into Welker's contract that would have made it nearly impossible for the Dolphins to match the offer. The Pats were going to offer Welker a seven-year, $38 million deal, which would have become fully guaranteed had the receiver played four games in Florida (assumed to be this year). While this isn't illegal, it's not necessarily an accepted practice. As a result, the teams worked out a trade where the Pats sent the Dolphins the second-round pick they would have received anyway, and included a seventh-rounder as a gesture of good faith. Hopefully the deal works out for both sides.

Welker Contract Detail

[Dphins4me]

But Cassell is a young Healthy Stud. Brady now has a Limp and 2-3 yrs Tops before serious decline.  Its a tough choice.   What the Pats have going for them is Belichick does not have a Loyal bone in his hooded body. 4 Superbowls? Thats the past. What have you done for me lately!!? Belichick is a cold hearted Mofo and Nice guys finish last. He will take who he thinks will help them win the most.

  The difference is Brady is still in his prime & playing great when he was injured as opposed to where Bledsoe was at the time.  Brady was not a runner to begin with so this knee injury will have little bearing on his game.   Cassel is younger, but he could not make the playoffs with a team Brady would have push for a SB title with. 

Get what you can get for Cassel & move forward with the kid from San Diego St.

[Frimp]

  The difference is Brady is still in his prime & playing great when he was injured as opposed to where Bledsoe was at the time.  Brady was not a runner to begin with so this knee injury will have little bearing on his game.   Cassel is younger, but he could not make the playoffs with a team Brady would have push for a SB title with. 

Get what you can get for Cassel & move forward with the kid from San Diego St.

Everything we've learned about Belechik says that when he finds younger QB talent, he keeps it. I think Brady's gone.

[SportsChick]

Didn't that 6th Rder win the Super Bowl for Belichick that year?  Bledsoe was sitting on the IR after going 0-2 to start that year.  Brady finished up 11-3 in '01.  Trading Bledsoe was a no brainier.

Cassel as well as he played missed the playoffs.  Brady will be 32 this year.  To many years left in him.  They will trade Cassel.

Bledsoe was not on the IR - in fact he played in a playoff game after Brady injured his ankle (? maybe knee) on a play. They would not have made the Super Bowl if not for Bledsoe's play in that game

[Fau Teixeira]

they wouldn't have made the superbowl if not for the stupid tuck rule