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« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2009, 03:38:22 pm »
You just love trying to crush my dreams, don't you?  You live for it!

Viva Pennington!  Long live the Dolphins!
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« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2009, 03:40:38 pm »
Quote from: MaineDolFan on February 13, 2009, 03:38:22 pm
You just love trying to crush my dreams, don't you?  You live for it!

Viva Pennington!  Long live the Dolphins!

No man, it's not like that at all...I just was pretty impressed with Cassel once he took over and got settled in.  That said, if you ever make it on to the show to talk some baseball, I'll probably give you free passes on everything else. Grin
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« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2009, 03:48:25 pm »
Hey!  That's not fair -- who was it that told me to call at ***8pm???***  Just curious!!!  Wink
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« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2009, 05:37:43 pm »
Quote from: Frimp on February 12, 2009, 07:27:25 pm

Uhhhh...We have one now

Oh.. I thought that Pennington played for Baltimore?  Who was that guy throwing to all those passes to the Baltimore players??  Oh yea those were INT's my falt!! 

 Roll Eyes
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« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2009, 05:42:31 pm »
So, Brady never had a bad game? Oh...How could he? He is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

I heard the game 'Doom' was loosely based on an incident where Tom Brady loaned the devil a quarter, and didnt pay him back in a timely matter.
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« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2009, 09:17:10 pm »
Quote from: Pats2006 on February 13, 2009, 05:37:43 pm
Oh.. I thought that Pennington played for Baltimore?  Who was that guy throwing to all those passes to the Baltimore players??  Oh yea those were INT's my falt!! 
Pennington's stat line in the '08 playoffs makes Cassel's look like nothing.  Like it doesn't even exist.

I don't really see how anyone can compare Cassel to Pennington and come away with the conclusion that Cassel was a better QB this year.

Pennington:
321/476   (67.4%), 3653 yards, 19 TD, 7 INT, 97.4 rating

Cassel:
327/516 (63.4%), 3693 yards, 21 TD, 11 INT, 89.4 rating

So with a vastly superior receiving corps, Cassel took 40 more attempts to make 6 more completions for 40 extra yards.  He threw two more TDs and 4 more INTs.  Cassel also led the league in number of times he was sacked (47); if you think this is all due to his OL (which seemed pretty damn good last year), ask yourself: would Tom Brady have taken FORTY SEVEN sacks behind that line?  When you lead the league in sacks taken, your decision making is an issue.

As for Matt Cassel's beautiful laser arm, Pennington beat him in both yards-per-attempt (7.7 to 7.2) and yards-per-completion (11.4 to 11.3), not to mention completion percentage.  Again, it's worth pointing out that Pennington did this with bum-off-of-the-street WRs, while Cassel is throwing to Pro Bowl and future-Hall-of-Fame WRs.
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« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2009, 09:25:53 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on February 13, 2009, 02:51:48 pm
Take out the "who" WRs at the end, and I thought you were talking about Cassel there. NE had O-line issues all season long, their best RB (Morris) wouldn't crack the Ronnie-Ricky tandem and it was his first year starting at QB since HS.
NE team rushing in 2008:
513att 2278yds 21TD 4.4y/a 17fum

MIA team rushing in 2008:
448att 1897yds 18TD 4.2y/a 18fum

Do you realize that you are using quality-of-surrounding-team as an argument for the player that inherited an 18-1 team vs. a player that inherited a 1-15 team?

This is beyond ridiculous.
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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2009, 01:37:34 am »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on February 13, 2009, 09:17:10 pm
Pennington's stat line in the '08 playoffs makes Cassel's look like nothing.  Like it doesn't even exist.

I don't really see how anyone can compare Cassel to Pennington and come away with the conclusion that Cassel was a better QB this year.

Pennington:
321/476   (67.4%), 3653 yards, 19 TD, 7 INT, 97.4 rating

Cassel:
327/516 (63.4%), 3693 yards, 21 TD, 11 INT, 89.4 rating

Because some of us watch football, and not just quote stat lines...
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« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2009, 02:49:03 am »
Quote from: Pats2006 on February 13, 2009, 05:37:43 pm
Oh.. I thought that Pennington played for Baltimore?  Who was that guy throwing to all those passes to the Baltimore players??  Oh yea those were INT's my falt!! 

What can you do?  We couldn't run that game and you gotta try to make something happen.  It's not like he could drop back, heave it up and have an all-star WR make a play. 
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« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2009, 04:57:43 am »
Quote from: Sunstroke on February 14, 2009, 01:37:34 am
Because some of us watch football, and not just quote stat lines...
Well, I guess you would have to actually watch football to properly appreciate Cassel's perfectly-thrown spiral... as it falls incomplete.  (That is, when he isn't getting piledriven into the turf.)

I only bring up stat lines as an objective method of comparing the two.  Subjectively, Pennington ate Cassel's lunch; he took a 1-15 team to a division title and tied for second in NFL MVP voting, while Cassel helmed an 18-1 team to missing the playoffs.  Pennington made the proverbial chicken salad out of chicken sh*t, while Cassel turned filet mignon into a steak sandwich.
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« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2009, 05:48:53 am »
Quote from: NADS on February 13, 2009, 02:28:09 am
Don't kid yourself, Brady and Manning are unbelievably good at what they do.  Sure, they've got some weapons but they know how to read defenses and are both quite accurate.
So was Steve Young.  Here are his stats from Tampa Bay.

3 wins - 16 losses
53.3% completions
11 TD, 21 Int
63.1 rating

In his first season at San Francisco his rating was 120.8
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« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2009, 06:54:40 pm »
Quote from: Pats2006 on February 13, 2009, 05:37:43 pm
Oh.. I thought that Pennington played for Baltimore?  Who was that guy throwing to all those passes to the Baltimore players??  Oh yea those were INT's my falt!! 

 Roll Eyes

Still one more game then the Pats played.   Cheesy
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« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2009, 07:23:58 pm »
Quote from: Pats2006 on February 13, 2009, 05:37:43 pm
Oh.. I thought that Pennington played for Baltimore?  Who was that guy throwing to all those passes to the Baltimore players??  Oh yea those were INT's my falt!! 

 Roll Eyes

And where was Randy Moss and Wes Welker during that game?  Oh yeah, that's right!  They were down in Mexico drinking cheap tequilla and sleeping with underage hos.
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« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2009, 05:55:08 pm »
Quote from: Tommy on February 14, 2009, 07:23:58 pm
And where was Randy Moss and Wes Welker during that game?  Oh yeah, that's right!  They were down in Mexico drinking cheap tequilla and sleeping with underage hos.

I heard Wes skipped the Mexico trip and went to Europe in search of NAMBLA buddies........
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