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DolFan619
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« on: February 17, 2009, 06:56:34 pm »

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2009/02/should-dolphins-unload-john-beck.html

Should Dolphins unload John Beck?

Ever had a girlfriend or boyfriend who you initially thought you'd really like, might have a future with, but for some reason the chemistry just wasn't there.

For some reason there weren't sparks no matter how hard you tried to make it work. Even though he or she were physically appealing, for one reason your eyes kept wandering to someone else.

John Beck is the Miami Dolphins' crush that never materialized. The former BYU quarterback fizzled in his four starts as an unprepared (yeah I said it) rookie under Cam Cameron.

 Beck followed up his disappointing 2007 campaign with a dismal 2008 training camp. He buckled under the pressure applied by Tony Sparano (that darn QB buzzer) and his regime and squandered his lone opportunity to earn the starting quarterback job before Chad Pennington came on board.

After that the Dolphins became a two Chad (Chad Pennington and rookie Chad Henne) team, and Beck was an afterthought.

But the Dolphins valued his stock so much they traded away veteran quarterback Josh McCown, whom had a better camp, to preserve Beck's trade value. And the two-year vet does still have value. How much is one of many issues the Dolphins will be exploring in the coming days, if not weeks.

The bottom line is the Dolphins like Beck, who is under contract through the 2010 season, but aren't in love with him.

The Trifecta's presently married to Pennington for the short term, and have their hopes set on Henne, the quarterback they drafted last season in the second-round, blossoming into a promising NFL starter in another year or two.

Beck and Henne have the same agent, which means it would benefit all parties to have both young signal callers on separate teams working to become established NFL starters.

But what will it take for the Dolphins to ship their No. 3 quarterback to another team in a year where the draft class at that position is fairly lackluster?

I'm told there are a few NFC teams that still like Beck because they had him rated high on their draft board when he was coming out in 2007.

Considering Beck's shaky start in the NFL, and the fact teams know he's on the market, it's highly unlikely the Dolphins can get anything close to the second-round pick the last regime invested in him.

He's been on the trade market going back to last training camp, and might have been moved for a fourth-round pick. But none was offered.

So, what's the going rate for a 27-year old former second-round pick with four starts under his belt?

NFL teams typically go through plenty of quarterbacks during a given season, so maybe the Dolphins should keep Beck around for insurance?

I'm told by his representative that he's usually better in his second season under the same offense, which means he might be on the verge of having a breakthrough training camp that redeems him.

It might be wise to keep him to push Henne.

Last year this regime unload former FSU tailback Lorenzo Booker, shipping him to Philadelphia on draft day for the fourth-round pick that ultimately turned into disappointing offensive lineman Shawn Murphy.

Could, and should Beck be moved in a similar fashion? And what is Beck worth to you?

Deuces.


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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 09:36:09 pm »

Damn right they should.  His trade value is at its highest right now, considering the crop of QB's in this draft class is relatively weak. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 07:55:40 am »

 
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Unload him like a large dump the day after Thanksgiving.

Make the Ravens take him.  Put your money where your mouth is Cameron!

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 08:02:15 am »

I expected this to be about cutting him outright. If his trade value is at its highest right now, I would hate to see him with a low trade value.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 08:43:17 am »

I think Beck could be just fine, but it's not clear that he's worth much in Miami. In other words, if Parcells/Ireland can swing a deal for a 3rd or 4th rounder, by all means, take it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 09:47:36 am »

I expected this to be about cutting him outright. If his trade value is at its highest right now, I would hate to see him with a low trade value.

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 09:55:24 am »

What is his salary compared to the average 3rd string QB?

If it is significantly higher, I can see it being worth a trade, but if not I see no reason to send him off.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 10:09:18 am »

  I'm curious as to which NFC teams still have an interest in Beck.  I know the Dolphins have been trying to shop Beck to the Cowboys, but nothing has come of it....  so far.  At this point, I think it's pretty cut and dry that Beck has no future in Miami, and a fresh start elsewhere would probably do him some good.  When you don't have the respect of your teammates from 2007, and the new faces that came in 2008, the chances of establishing yourself are pretty slim.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 11:33:14 am »

I expected this to be about cutting him outright. If his trade value is at its highest right now, I would hate to see him with a low trade value.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 01:50:37 pm »

What would we think his trade value is right now?  I don't know anyone who'd give anything for him.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 02:35:00 pm »

What would we think his trade value is right now?  I don't know anyone who'd give anything for him.

I say MAYBE a 5th round pick.  A 6th or 7th rounder is more likely.  Anything higher than 5th is probably out of the question unless you are dealing with a Rick Spielman. 

If someone offers me a 6th rounder going to a 5th rounder depending on how many snaps he plays, I'll take it.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 05:23:36 pm »

he has some trade value... the way qb's have been dropping like flies in this league in recent years is ridiculous. best case scenario would be to have him do well in camp, perform good in the pre-season games and trade him for a 2010 pick (4th rounder at best) to a team wanting to develop him.

for god's sake, ken dorsey started some games last year. culpepper basically came in off of the street for the lions.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 05:25:42 pm »

If he does well in camp and pre-season games then maybe the Dolphins should just hold on to him.
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 05:49:12 pm »

If he does well in camp and pre-season games then maybe the Dolphins should just hold on to him.

Gut feeling tells me he's not going to do well in camp.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 05:52:39 pm »

No, hate for Cam Cameron tells you he's not going to do well in camp Roll Eyes
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