Should Dolphins unload John Beck?

[YoFuggedaboutit]

No, hate for Cam Cameron tells you he's not going to do well in camp

Then tell me why he supposedly looked good in the 2007 preseason, then looked like shit in the 2008 preseason?

[fyo]

Then tell me why he supposedly looked good in the 2007 preseason, then looked like shit in the 2008 preseason?

He couldn't cope with the incredible pressure? (the 3s buzzer is just a single example).

That's not a good thing, of course, but you never know - he might've dug deep and figured out what he needs to work at. If he's done that this past year, he might surprise.

[StL FinFan]

I was just responding to the post that says qb's are dropping like flies and then says that they should trade Beck if he does well.  If qb's are dropping like flies and he does well, then shouldn't they keep him as a back up?  Or would that make too much sense?

[fyo]

If qb's are dropping like flies and he does well, then shouldn't they keep him as a back up?  Or would that make too much sense?

He might be worth more to another team. We already have a young stud and a veteran (in some yet-to-be-determined depth chart). If we really want a 3rd quarterback (not a given), there are plenty minimum-wage quarterbacks. You could draft a 7th rounder "project" type or even go after Joey Harrington (!). He's a free agent and should come cheap.

[dolfan13]

I was just responding to the post that says qb's are dropping like flies and then says that they should trade Beck if he does well.  If qb's are dropping like flies and he does well, then shouldn't they keep him as a back up?  Or would that make too much sense?

henne is already the backup qb for the fins. beck is the odd man out, and since we already have a qb younger than him higher on the depth chart, he has no future here. best case, we want beck to do well in pre-season to get a better value draft pick via trade for 2010.

[StL FinFan]

So we only go with 2 qb's when "qb's are dropping like flies"?  I am finding serious flaws in the "let's hope John Beck does well so we can trade him" theory.

Personally, I don't care if he stays or goes.

[Dphins4me]

  I see a Beck/Bobby Carpenter trade in the month of March.  Dallas needs a young backup & Miami needs a LBer.  Neither have high trade value, so its basically a bust for a bust trade.

[dolfan13]

i never said you only go with 2 qbs... and actually you have it backwards, it's really "we're going to trade beck, so let's give him some opportunities and hope he does well".

all anyone has to go off now are the keystone cops highlights from that giants game in london. probably sixth round at best... if he shows some things in the pre-season its not so far fetched that a team with little depth at the qb position sweetens the deal.

3rd qb is probably going to be some very cheap veteran basically for emergency purposes.

[Sunstroke]

If someone offers Miami a bag of doritos for John Beck, I say we take the snacks and run...

[Tenshot13]

If someone offers Miami a bag of doritos for John Beck, I say we take the snacks and run...

And if he gets x number of snaps, it's a conditional pick of spicy salsa!

[Phishfan]

If someone offers Miami a bag of doritos for John Beck, I say we take the snacks and run...

I'm with you. I can't believe anyone thinks he has any trade value. The Wanny/Spileman era is over and they are about the only ones I know willing to give up anything of value for a third string QB.

[Dphins4me]

I'm with you. I can't believe anyone thinks he has any trade value. The Wanny/Spileman era is over and they are about the only ones I know willing to give up anything of value for a third string QB.

Its not that he is 3rd string.  He is young enough Qb who can be groomed.  Everyone talks about what a horrible coach Cam was & everyone knows the situation they put Beck into the games with.   His confidence is/was shot.

I still think he can be a quality Qb given time.  Sage was once considered a nothing & he is one of the best backup Qbs in the game right now.  Might even have starter ability in him.  So discard Beck as a nothing would be wrong.  There was a reason they kept him on the roster last year.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

I still think he can be a quality Qb given time.  Sage was once considered a nothing & he is one of the best backup Qbs in the game right now.  Might even have starter ability in him.  So discard Beck as a nothing would be wrong.  There was a reason they kept him on the roster last year.

Starter ability for Sage??  Here's a couple of examples of what happened when he was the starter (had to do some gravedigging):

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=7274.0

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=12550.0

[Brian Fein]

Then tell me why he supposedly looked good in the 2007 preseason, then looked like shit in the 2008 preseason?

because in 2007 preseason you loved Cam Cameron and in the 2008 preseason you hated Cam Cameron. 

People see what they want to see.

[Dphins4me]

Starter ability for Sage??  Here's a couple of examples of what happened when he was the starter (had to do some gravedigging):

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=7274.0

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=12550.0

  Yes starter ability, Minn. was/still might be interested in Sage as a starter. 

Thread 1:  The Browns game was in '05.  This is now '09.  Growth of a player. That was also the game the whole team failed to show up.  Gus fared no better.

Thread 2.  Sage went 2-3 as a starter for Houston this past year.  His loses?  To Indy & Balt.   A string of bad plays does not change the fact he had them in the lead & I might take a wild guess Sage will never try to jump over someone again.